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- I grew up thinking if I did everything right, negotiated hard enough, leaned in enough, the outcome would eventually match the effort. Y'all, that was a big old fat lie. Stefanie O'Connell spent years digging into the research for her new book, The Ambition Penalty, and the data is downright shocking. We get into girlboss culture and tradwife culture, and why they're actually selling the same lie in different outfits. We talk about what happens to women who out earn their male partners, and I promise, you're going to be picking your jaw up off the floor. Fair warning, there's some rage in this one. Mine included.
Notable timestamps:
01:55 – Stefanie explains the title and the reckoning behind the book
06:07 – The truth about whether women actually negotiate less than men
10:29 – Was Lean In a net positive or a net negative
15:55 – Girlboss and tradwife culture are selling the exact same lie
20:03 – Midroll
26:34 – The data on breadwinning moms and abuse in the home
36:43 – Why men only read 20% of bestselling books by women
45:03 – Where to actually start when the problem feels too big
50:10 – Why Stefanie refuses to buy into mom guilt
56:27 – What utopia actually looks like, ten years out
Stefanie's links:
The Ambition Penalty (book):https://amzn.to/4gbQlSY
Website: https://tooambitious.com/
Too Ambitious newsletter: https://tooambitious.substack.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stefanieoconnell/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stefaniemoconnell
Allison's links:
Free Podcast Clarity Call: https://allisonhare.com/freecall
Instagram: https://instagram.com/allison__hare
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/allisonhare
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Feedback and Contact:: allison@allisonhare.com - The women who built Lilith Fair were called "angry," "hysterical," "emotional," and dismissed as "a bunch of lesbians" back in the 90s. Turns out Sarah McLachlan and her all-female lineup were way ahead of their time, running the highest grossing tour of 1997. Now the concept is back, and leading the charge is Olivia Rodrigo, using her platform to advocate for women's rights. This is a fun, fascinating, and timely look at how right those women were, and why the fight just picked up way more steam.
Notable timestamps (estimated):
00:00 Daisy Chain Fields, and why it couldn't have come faster
02:20 The Alanis Morissette clip that stopped Allison cold
05:00 The real history of Lilith Fair: why radio wouldn't play two women back to back
08:10 The Indigo Girls, internalized homophobia, and breaking through anyway
18:45 Allison's mom, "never rely on a man to make money," and what it cost her
27:20 Olivia Rodrigo's parents: "you can't be a real artist unless you speak up"
32:00 The Daisy Chain Fields lineup and how fast it sold out
34:00 The gestalt therapy session with a bat, and learning to let anger out
38:40 Why the internet is already criticizing what Olivia Rodrigo wears
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Episode resources:
Daisy Chain Fields: https://www.daisychainfields.com
Lilith Fair: Building a Mystery (2025 documentary)
Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso, the Alanis Morissette episode: https://talkeasypod.com/alanis-morissette/
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Feedback and Contact:: allison@allisonhare.com - Are you as obsessed as I am about how we are being manipulated by social media, ads, propaganda, politics, and what's real and what's not? Well, you're in luck! I've got ad sleuth Emily Rask from the hit show Lies We Bought podcast on to break it down for us! This is a fun and fascinating exploration into the sinister truth of advertising.
Notable timestamps:
03:05 What Lies We Bought actually is
10:29 The Kellogg brothers and the breakfast myth
11:38 Listerine invented a disease called halitosis
15:18 Growing up Mormon in Utah
22:33 The LDS Church's $30 billion SEC settlement
31:20 Why she turns down supplement company sponsors
38:03 Lie or Legit: rapid-fire mythbusting
42:35 Edward Bernays, the father of propaganda
Guest links:
Emily Rask's Lies We Bought: https://www.lieswebought.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@liesweboughtpodcast
Patreon: patreon.com/c/lieswebought
IG: https://www.instagram.com/lieswebought/
Allison's links:
Instagram: https://instagram.com/allison__hare
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/allisonhare
Free Podcast Clarity Call: https://allisonhare.com/freecall
No Country for Mothers screening, Atlanta, Aug 24: https://allisonhare.com/mothers
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Feedback and Contact:: allison@allisonhare.com - My father died last week. He was 97. What a gangster, making it that far.
Milad Rizk survived World War Two as a kid in Lebanon, immigrated to America with nothing but a Lebanese passport and a plan, raised six kids across two marriages, and spent his whole career as an auditor jumping from Iraq to Saudi Arabia to Chicago to New York. He had dementia for the last several years of his life. Toward the end he couldn't really talk to us anymore.
Then I remembered something. Fifteen years ago, before I had a podcast, before I even knew what a podcast was, I used to run a music blog and interview artists with a little handheld recorder. One day I pointed it at my dad instead and asked him to tell me his whole life story.
I hadn't listened to it since. I wasn't even sure the file still existed. So last week I dug an old recorder out of a closet, popped in the SD card, and the very first file I opened was him.
I think about how close I came to never finding this. And I think about how many of us have a parent sitting right there, willing to talk, and we just haven't asked yet.
This is Milad Youssef Rizk. Born December 20th, 1928 in Tripoli, Lebanon. Died July 30th of this year. He spoke five languages, picked up hitchhikers with all six of his kids in the car (#superdad), and told stories so freaking captivating. In this interview he talks about growing up poor during the war, what it was like starting over in America in his late twenties, and near the end, whether he thinks he was a good father. His answer surprised me (he said no).
If you still have a parent (or loved one) who would sit down and talk to you, record it. You can thank me later!
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Feedback and Contact:: allison@allisonhare.com - As a woman who deeply cares about women's rights, I am obsessed with a show that is totally problematic. America's Sweethearts Season 3 just dropped on Netflix. I grabbed fellow DCC-obsessed Mara Davis, an Atlanta radio legend who has been watching the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders since the 1970s, sat through all 17 seasons on CMT, and has opinions about every single cheerleader, judge, and PR move in that building. We get into Reece's early retirement and the trad wife speculation swirling on Reddit, Faith's breakout season and the ponytail situation, whether the coordinated cheerleader solidarity online is real or engineered, what Kelli's exit meeting with Faith reveals about leadership under serious pressure, and why two feminists who probably shouldn't love this show absolutely cannot stop watching it.
Timestamps:
00:00 Why Allison is obsessed with a show she admits is totally problematic
02:35 Mara's DCC origin story: 17 seasons of CMT and what changed when Netflix arrived
05:10 The arc of all three seasons: severely underpaid athletes, pay equity fight, social media scrutiny
06:45 Mara's feminist paradox: "It doesn't make sense that I love this show so much"
08:36 Reece: the darling who appeared in all three seasons and why her early exit is more complicated than an injury
11:13 Reece's husband, the trad wife speculation, and what Reddit has been saying
14:44 Faith as the Season 3 breakout: "You cannot take your eyes off that girl"
15:31 The moment that made Mara fully Team Kelli: the exit meeting and what Kelli said to Faith
16:43 Kelli's "re-earn my trust," Victoria from Season 1, and whether the cheerleader solidarity online is coordinated
21:53 "It's Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. It's not Victoria. It's just not."
23:00 Kelli watches back every season and critiques her own leadership
23:18 Mara: "I want her to run the country."
26:13 What Season 3 may have hidden about body image and why seven episodes isn't enough
33:13 Mara used to judge Atlanta Falcons cheerleader auditions
35:31 Why the DCC sisterhood is actually one of the most feminist things on television
37:20 Who would replace Kelli and Judy if they ever retired?
38:37 Glow-ups, ageism, and how people talk about women over 60 online
40:28 Season 4 is confirmed and we already know who's back at training camp
43:09 Dayton and Dayton's mom
44:32 Judy Trammell choreographed Thunderstruck and the music licensing conversation
Resources and Links Mentioned
Mara Davis on Instagram: https://instagram.com/maradavis2000
"Be There in Five" podcast by Kate Kennedy (Victoria's appearance on this episode is discussed): https://open.spotify.com/episode/2brpAlYGUffbYekHU1PqMR?si=f3d45a467f444032
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Culture Changers is where we pour gasoline on fiery topics like power, politics, religion, and relationships (thoughtfully) and find a better way through. I've interviewed people like Seth Godin, Mariel Hemingway, and Jesse Itzler among other notable world-changers. And of course, we are talking cults, trad wives, microtrends, money, faith, and what it actually means to be human right now. Listen, it's time to get up and do something. We've got a world to change!
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