Inside The Vatican

This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss comments from Pope Leo XIV and three cardinals on the Iran War, including one cardinal’s analysis of whether the conflict meets the requirements of a “just war.” In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry give an overview of the three synod study group final reports that have been released so far: on digital mission, seminaries and women’s roles in the church.

0:00 Intro

1:04 Pope Leo’s comments on Iran

7:30 Cardinal Cupich warns against ‘gamifying’ war

12:25 Cardinal David on war technology

14:10 Cardinal McElroy on Just War Theory

21:27 New papal nuncio to the U.S.

24:33 Synod study group report on digital mission

28:31 Final report on seminary formation

31:46 Final report on women’s ministries

36:36 Why did Cardinal Sako resign?

Links:

Register for Gerry’s book launch

Pope Leo calls for a stop to ‘the thunderous sound of bombs’ in the Middle East

Pope Leo praises heroic action of priest killed by Israeli tank fire in Lebanon

Iran’s Cardinal Mathieu evacuated to Rome

Cardinals McElroy and Cupich denounce Iran war: ‘War now has become a spectator sport.’

Pope Leo appoints Archbishop Caccia as nuncio to the United States

First synod final reports published: on digital culture and seminary formation

The changing face of seminary formation: Group therapy, digital detoxing and more listening

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On Saturday morning, Feb. 28, the U.S. and Israel launched strikes on Iran, killing its leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei along with other senior regime figures. The following day, Pope Leo appealed for peace, urging world leaders to stop “the spiral of violence before it becomes an unbridgeable chasm.” This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Veteran Vatican Correspondent Gerard O’Connell explains why he saw Leo’s comments as relatively restrained compared to John Paul II’s at the beginning of the Iraq War.

In the second part of the show, Gerry shares a story from his forthcoming book on the 2025 conclave.

0:00 Intro

2:20 Vatican response to Iran war

7:05 John Paul II on the 2003 Iraq War

9:07 Pope Leo decries 'zeal for war'

10:48 Archbishop Coakley speaks out on war

11:30 On the Christian communities of Tehran

12:50 Pope Leo talks on Hong Kong activist Jimmy Lai

14:18 Cardinal Parolin's statements on the war

19:00 What difference the Vatican make

22:14 Stories from Gerry's new book on the conclave

25:40 Cardinal forgets to give away his phone

27:25 Cardinals unused to having no phones

29:00 Behind the scenes of the conclave

32:05 Is the conclave not 'top secret'?

33:26 Outro

Links:

Pope Leo urges a halt to ‘spiral of violence’ across Iran and Middle East

Cardinal Parolin on Iran war: ‘The force of law has been replaced by the law of force’

Address of Pope Leo XIV to Members of the Diplomatic Corps Accredited to the Holy See, Jan. 9, 2026

Against Unjust and Unjustified War with Iran

I regret supporting the Iraq War. We shouldn’t repeat our mistakes in Iran now.

Book Excerpt: Behind the scenes of Pope Leo XIV’s election

The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis

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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss the announcement of several new papal trips, as well as the Society of St. Pius X’s rejection of a Vatican offer for dialogue and what could happen next. In the second part of the show, the hosts look at the situation of Ukrainian Catholics and the Vatican’s efforts to help end the war on its fourth anniversary.


0:00 Intro


0:47 Papal trips for spring announced


7:30 SSPX rejects Vatican proposal


12:33 The extra letter to SSPX that Gerry saw


17:30 Cardinals Muller and Sarahs’s warnings


19:24 What’s next for SSPX?


24:14 Fourth anniversary of war in Ukraine


26:59 Vatican response to Ukraine peace talks


31:02 Vatican’s humanitarian aid to Ukraine


34:02 Situation of Ukrainian Catholics


38:32 Outro and Credits

Links:

Pope Leo XIV to embark on 10-day Africa tour and trips to Spain and Monaco

SSPX rejects Vatican dialogue, plans to consecrate bishops without papal mandate

Cardinals Müller, Sarah urge SSPX to submit to papal authority

Pope Leo calls for ‘an immediate ceasefire’ to the war in Ukraine

Four years of war: ‘The Ukrainian Catholic Church is wiped out every time there is Russian aggression.’

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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Senior Vatican Correspondent and Contributing Editor Ricardo da Silva, S.J., discuss the Vatican’s decision not to join President Trump’s Board of Peace, Pope Leo’s Lenten message, and the pope’s plans for the first Lent since his election last May.

0:00 Intro

0:35 Vatican declines Board of Peace invitation

5:06 Pope Leo’s Ash Wednesday plans

7:17 Pope Leo’s Lenten message

12:14 Inviting communities to listen during Lent

14:30 Pope Leo calls war a public health crisis

18:14 Pope Leo begins visiting Roman parishes

22:43 Altar girls serve at papal Mass

25:36 Recent appointments of women in Vatican offices

29:20 Pope Leo dissolves papal committee for World Children’s Day

32:11 Credits

Links:

Vatican will not join Trump’s ‘Board of Peace’ for Gaza, Cardinal Parolin says

Pope Leo XIV explains why Catholics fast during Lent

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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle are joined by longtime Vatican journalist John Thavis to discuss the strained relationship between the Vatican and the Priestly Society of St. Pius X, after the Society said it plans to ordain new bishops July 1 with or without papal permission.

0:00 Intro

1:08 Pope Leo travel updates

4:36 What is the Society of St. Pius X?

7:14 SSPX’s beginnings and beliefs

12:46 The 1988 SSPX bishops’ ordinations

16:48 Pope Benedict and the Latin Mass

22:24 Benedict lifts excommunications, offers autonomy

28:05 Pope Francis’s actions on SSPX and Latin Mass

30:34 Questions facing Pope Leo XIV

36:37 What do the Vatican and SSPX each want?

42:57 Update on Feb. 12 meeting with Cardinal Fernandez

44:00 Credits

St. Pius X Society to ordain new bishops without Vatican approval, risking excommunication

The Vatican Diaries: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at the Power, Personalities and Politics at the Heart of the Catholic Church

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