Human School

Have you ever met someone who spent 50 years healing others and somehow became more human with every one of those years?

What would it mean to stop hiding behind your busyness, your title, or your phone, and let someone actually see you?
 
Mary Bellofatto is a pioneer in mental health who has spent five decades walking the hardest terrain human experience offers — trauma, disordered eating, addiction, grief, and couples work. With deep mastery in psychodrama, she has brought healing to therapy rooms across the world. At 81, she still wakes up excited, tears up at the thought of never retiring, and gets out of Ubers last because someone needs to finish their story.
 
In this conversation, Mary opens up about what it means to be a catalyst without burning out, why loneliness is cured by learning to be alone, and how shame shields the grief we won't feel. She shares the moment a young man in Uganda said, "I'm just a boy," and freed himself from years of soldiers' shame. Miles and Mary go deep into disordered eating, including what she said in a bathroom that finally unlocked the real story underneath. Eighty years of hard-won wisdom, delivered with Arkansas common sense and lack of clinical jargon.
 
In this conversation, you'll learn:
How to Be a Catalyst Without Losing Yourself
How Loneliness Can Be Cured by Learning to Be Alone
How Shame Functions as a Shield for Unprocessed Grief
How to Widen Your Definition of Grief Beyond Loss
How the Stories We Tell Ourselves Build a Lifetime Around a Lie
How Psychodrama Unlocks What Talk Therapy Can't Reach
How to Hold Space Without Trying to Fix Anyone
How to Recognize When Busyness Is a Medicator
How Disordered Eating Is Really About Dignity
How to Live Your Legacy Right Now — Not Someday
 
Human School is powered by the work happening at Onsite, a place where people step out of their normal rhythms to do deeper healing work in community. Learn more at ⁠⁠experienceonsite.com⁠.

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What We Discuss:
00:00:00 - Meet Mary Bellofatto
00:04:31 - The Currency of Miracles
00:05:55 - How to Hold Space Without Fixing Anyone
00:09:37 - Wounded in Relationship, Healed in Relationship
00:09:10 - The Airport Wave That Said Everything
00:10:54 - Tears Are Actually Talking
00:12:30 - Why Strangers Always Pour Their Stories Out to Her
00:13:53 - Hugging Your Uber Drivers
00:20:04 - What We Miss When We Hide Behind Technology
00:21:52 - Grief in the Coffee Aisle
00:23:22 - What Hurry Is Really Running From
00:25:19 - Loneliness and the Courage to Be Alone
00:26:44 - Shame Is the Shield
00:29:57 - The Many Faces of Grief
00:32:11 A - Country That Stopped Grieving
00:40:18 - Does Kindness Still Work?
00:43:06 - Trauma Is…
00:44:18 - The Stories We Tell Ourselves vs What We Hear
00:48:32 - How Mary Walks into a Room Full of Strangers
00:52:11 14 - Years of Monthly Psychodrama Training
01:00:38 - The Child Soldiers of Uganda
01:03:37 - Rwanda After the Genocide
01:05:02 - The Brain When People Move Their Bodies
01:13:44 - Wisdom from 53 Years of Marriage
01:22:27 - Disordered Eating Is Not Like Any Other Addiction
01:35:58 - Mary Doubles for Miles Live, On Air
01:41:19 - Legacy is the Now
01:48:22 - Words to the World Right Now
01:54:04 - Pastor’s Living Centered Program at Onsite
01:55:08 - Five Grammy Moments from Mile’s North Star

Have you ever stood in the middle of a life that looks great on paper and still felt like you were failing the people right in front of you?

What if being hard on yourself isn't humility?  It's just the long way around to never believing you're enough?

And what happens when the same obsessive drive that makes you world-class at your craft is the exact thing that makes it hard to just sit down and watch your kid eat cereal slowly?
 
Miles sits down with his longtime friend for one of the most honest and wide-open episodes yet. Thomas Rhett brings all of himself — the songwriter who goes all in on everything he loves, the dad of five learning to trade productivity for presence, and the man doing the real work to make sure who his family experiences every day is the same person the world admires from a distance. This one is full of laughter, hard-won wisdom, and the kind of honesty that only happens between two people who genuinely trust each other.
 
This conversation is about the guy who flips on the bedroom lights at 6:30 AM, trying to get five kids out the door, and wonders on the drive home if he loved them well at all that morning. The man who told a new friend upfront, "I'm not a good friend" — and actually believed it. The songwriter who can make strangers cry but struggles to list three ways he was showing up for his own kids. Miles and Thomas Rhett go deep into what it actually looks like to chase congruence, to be as present and real inside your home as you are when the world is watching.
 
Thomas Rhett shares what his first trip to Onsite taught him about letting go, how a simple question from his counselor cracked something open about the way he sees himself as a father, why he's writing his most intentional album yet, and what he hopes his kids say about him long after the number ones stop counting.
 
In this conversation, you'll learn:
How to Stop Measuring Your Worth by Rooms That Aren't Full
How to Ask the Question: "How Do I Know I'm a Great Father?"
How to Parent Five Kids Completely Differently Without Losing Your Mind
How to Shed Your Stage Persona the Moment You Walk Through Your Front Door
How to Redefine Success So You Can Actually Sleep at Night
How to Have the Friendship You Want Instead of the One You've Labeled Yourself With
How to Live Like You Know You're Going to Die - Ecclesiastes edition
How to Stop Fixing and Start Being Present in the Mess
How to Give Yourself the Dugout Grace Every Parent Desperately Needs
How to Use Your Obsessive Nature as a Superpower Instead of a Trap
 
Human School is powered by the work happening at Onsite, a place where people step out of their normal rhythms to do deeper healing work in community. Learn more: ⁠experienceonsite.com⁠.

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Chapters:
00:00:00 – Meet Thomas Rhett Akins
00:03:18 – Trucks, Gear & Going All In
00:07:54 – Soundtrack of the Masters: A Career Highlight
00:09:29 – Golf is a Metaphor for Life
00:17:44 – Tiger Wood’s & Nick Saben’s Life Advice
00:22:01 – The 6:30 AM Spiral with Five Kids
00:24:17 – Wisdom from John Maxwell & Worst-Case Scenarios
00:28:19 – The Question That Started This Friendship
00:30:14 – What Raising Four Daughters is Teaching Him
00:35:49 – The Discipline of Being Present
00:41:23 – Work-Life Balance Is a Myth
00:42:37 – "They Just Need to See Your Eyes"
00:47:10 – What Breaks His Heart Most as a Dad
00:52:07 – "How Do You Know You're a Great Father?"
00:54:10 – The Coach’s Influence Still Impacting Him
00:55:14 – Showing Up in Friendships
00:58:01 – The Round Table & A, B & C Friendships
01:04:10 – Answering the “Great Father” Question
01:20:30 – Ecclesiastes & Living Like You're Going to Die
01:37:44 – Redefining What a “Hit” Actually Means
01:43:32 – Onsite & The Rock in the River
01:47:52 – 36-Year-Old TR Would Tell 25-Year-Old TR
01:52:49 – What He Hopes His Kids Will Remember

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Have you ever taught others how to communicate, but still lost it in your own kitchen?
 
What if the best communicators in the world are still works in progress, and that's exactly the point?
 
Jefferson Fisher is a board-certified trial attorney, NY Times bestselling author of The Next Conversation, and one of themost-followed voices on communication online. Behind the millions of views is a husband, a dad, and a fifth-generation attorney from small-town Texas still figuring it out in real time. In this conversation, Miles and Jefferson get into the real stuff — a flooded house, a morning fight, imposter syndrome, and why even the best communicators still have to earn their reps every day.
 
Jefferson opens up about the moment being a public-facing person started changing his everyday life, why going to extremes in arguments almost never works, and the phrase his wife came up with mid-argument that changed how he sees conflict. Miles shares a raw moment from his kitchen and what happened when he finally stopped doubling down and let his wife bring the temperature down.
 
In this conversation, you'll learn:
How to Enter Hard Conversations with Something to Learn, Not Something to Prove
How the Ignition and Cooling Phases Work in Real Arguments
Why Affirming a Feeling First Is the Most Disarming Move You Can Make
How Vulnerability Builds More Trust Than Any Credential on the Wall
How to Stop Going to Extremes in Conflict and What to Do Instead
Why the Best at Being Human Learn It From Living, Not Studying
How to Tell the Difference Between a Reaction and a Repair
How Fame Makes the Very Things You Teach Harder to Practice
Why What's Good for the Family Is Good for the Business
How to Let Go of the Conversation You Had Scripted in Your Head

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What We Discuss:
00:00:00 - Meet Jefferson Fisher
00:03:54 - What law school doesn’t teach
00:04:42 - How a trial attorney became a communication voice
00:06:09 - Small Town Silsby, Texas
00:08:14 - 800 friends to millions of strangers
00:10:24 - Contrast is the unlock for building an audience
00:27:17 - IBC Root Beer & A Story Told Twice
00:12:33 - His Dad Raised Him with Questions, not Answers
00:19:57 - Imposter Syndrome feels different when your job istalking
00:23:42 - Does he actually use any of this at home?
00:29:18 - Miles's morning: A flooded house, a fight, and arepair
00:38:08 - Ignition and cooling phases in action
00:39:51 - The one move that stops almost any argument
00:45:08 - One Take Videos: Just being Real on Camera
00:47:45 - Have something to learn, not something to prove
00:53:33 - Surrender as a daily practice
00:57:19 - Even the experts are still chasing the tools theyteach
01:01:48 - Why therapists send clients Jefferson's book
01:06:41 - What Jefferson doesn't like about therapy
01:14:26 - ‘Either way, it's good’— the phrase that reframed conflict
01:15:39 - Embarrassment makes men double down instead of own it
01:19:38 - Jefferson’s Motto on Choosing What’s Next
01:21:05 - Projects in the works from Jefferson

Stuck in the same emotional patterns? Onsite's Living Centered Program is a five-day intensive that helps you slow down, go deeper, and do the inner work that changes things. Learn more at experienceonsite.com
 
What if the most meaningful thing you ever did wasn't whatmade you famous, but who you showed up for when nobody was watching?
 
What if the key to getting unstuck isn't adding more to yourlife, but having the courage to quit something on a Thursday?
 
Bob Goff — NYT bestselling author, founder of Love Does, andhonorary consul to Uganda — joins Miles Adcox for one of the most honest conversations in Human School history. These two have traveled conflict zones together, worked with San Quentin, and called each other in the gutted middle-of-the-night moments real friendships are made of.
 
Bob opens up about walking away from law, stepping back fromspeaking, and handing over the nonprofit, he literally wrote the book on. He shares the four lies he tells himself daily and why naming them changed everything. He tells the story of Kabi — a Ugandan witch doctor convicted of child sacrifice — whom Bob prosecuted, befriended on death row, and watched transform an entire prison. They go deep on finding your "eight," the epidemic of loneliness, and why so many of us are surrounded by acquaintances but starving for real friendship.
 
In this conversation, you'll learn:
How to Use Context to Replace Judgment Before It Costs You a Relationship
How to Know the Difference Between Self-Aware andSelf-Absorbed
How to Find Your Eight and Stop Mistaking Acquaintances for Friends
How to Quit Something Every Thursday and Why It's the Most Freeing Practice
How to Stop Freeze-Framing People in Their Worst Moment
How to Replace "How Are You" with a Question ThatOpens a Door
How to Recognize Your Tells and What They're ReallyProtecting
How to Catch Someone on the Bounce After the Crater
How to Connect Your Why Before You Make the Move
How to Show Up for the Hard-to-Love Without an Agenda
 
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What We Discuss:
00:00:00 Meet Bob Goff
00:05:04 What San Quentin Taught Him About Context andJudgment
00:07:24 17 Counts of Armed Robbery, an Xbox, and $1,100Total Haul
00:11:44 Knowing Your Tells
00:12:11 Guide vs. Sherpa: How Onsite Does It Differently
00:13:17 Self-Aware vs. Self-Absorbed
00:15:57 Choosing to Be Misunderstood
00:22:03 A Hot Pink Castle and Grandparents Who Were NutsAbout Him
00:23:41 Stop Asking “How Are You?”
00:28:52 The Loneliness Epidemic
00:30:59 The Polaroid Problem —Hesitating to Make the Call
00:36:50 Your “Eight” Relationships
00:37:56 Four Lies Bob Tells Himself and the Audit ThatExposes Them
00:44:58 Setbacks Aren't Campsites
00:45:36 Quitting His Own Law Firm Without Explanation
00:46:10 Quit Something Every Thursday
00:58:45 12 Daily Disneyland Tickets and What They Reveal
01:05:19 If Your Brain Can See Itself, It Can Heal Itself
01:10:33 How Bob Got Six Giraffes from a President
01:19:30 Catching People on the Bounce
01:25:32 The Story of Kabi
01:35:30 The Most Surprising Thing About Great Friendship

Nicolle mentions her time at Onsite's Living Centered Group Intensive in this conversation and the transformation thathappened for her during that program. If you want to know more about that experience, visit experienceonsite.com or give our team a call at 1(800)341-7432.

Have you ever built a life that looks like everything you wanted and realized you left the most important version of yourself behind?
What if going home and getting quiet enough to hear yourself was actually the bravest thing you could do?
Nicolle Galyon is one of country music's most decorated songwriters — BMI Songwriter of the Year, ACM Song of the Year winner, and the writer behind hits for Dan + Shay, Lee Brice, Kenny Chesney, Miranda Lambert, Keith Urban, andcountless others. But beyond the number ones, Nicolle has done something harder: she stopped, looked inward, and rebuilt her life around what matters most.

In this conversation, you'll learn:
How to Recognize When Achievement Has Become Your Medicator
How to Find the Childhood Script Running Your Life Without Permission
How to Trade the Pressure of Outcomes for the Freedom of Loving the Process
How Stillness Unlocks the Creativity That Noise Has Been Blocking
How to Build a Career Without Losing Yourself in It
How to Cultivate an Abundance Mentality When Someone You Love Is Winning
How Community — Not Achievement — Is the Real Marker for a Meaningful Life
How to Navigate Success in a Marriage Between Two Creatives
How to Raise Kids Who Feel Belonging Instead of Pressure
How to Know When It's Time to Go Home

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Songs & Daughters - @songsanddaughters
Nicolle's Music

What We Discuss: 00:00:00 – Meet Nicolle Galyon
00:05:07 – Why Stillness Is Essential
00:07:51 – The Psychology of Boredom
00:15:08 – What Nicolle Rediscovered When She Finally Slowed Down
00:19:00 – Reframing Boredom
00:22:18 – Onsite's Living Centered Program Changed Everything
00:25:38 – Where the Drive to Achieve Really Came From
00:30:06 – Money Scripts And How They're Driving You
00:35:20 – Why Success Still Makes Her Emotional
00:45:53 – Love or Money? The Exercise That Shifts Everything
00:49:08 – The Moment She Knew She Belonged in Nashville
00:56:09 – Navigating Rejection When the Odds Are Against You
01:00:56 – Falling in Love with the Process Over the Outcome
01:03:55 – Songs and Daughters: Mentoring the Next Generation of Women
01:08:44 – The Moment She Felt Like a Hypocrite and What She Did To Change It
01:09:53 – Marrying a Songwriter
01:13:16 – How to Build an Abundance Mentality in Any Relationship
01:16:19 – Sterling, Kansas Was Her Superpower All Along
01:25:41 – The Most Meaningful Song Nobody Knows
01:30:51 – How She Found Out "Tequila" Blew Up
01:32:43 – What She Wants Her Kids to See in How She Lives
01:36:26 – Advice That Changed How Miles Shows up
01:38:11 – Firstborn: A Letter Written for Her Children
01:39:10 – Closing: Go Do the Work So You Can Come Home More Completely