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Guitarist, vocalist, songwriter and film director Ben Hozie of the Brooklyn-based indie rock band Bodega visits YMAAA to talk about Milk Dick’s 2014 album It Grows on You. Ben explains how he got acquainted with Milk Dick’s music and why It Grows on You has been his musical companion for more than a decade. He discusses how the band’s theatrical and sometimes serious side co-exists with the humor and silliness inherent to their musical style and band name. Ben also breaks down several of his favorite tracks from the album. He talks about the musical influences that informed Bodega’s new album All Inside Aquarium as well as discussing his ATM: At This Moment podcast and upcoming film Jack London Calling.

To learn more about Bodega or to check out their music, please visit their website and Bandcamp page, respectively at bodega-band.com and bodegabk.bandcamp.com.
You can also follow the band on Instagram and TikTok at @bodegabk and check out their videos at @bodegaNYC on YouTube.

To hear Ben’s interview with Milk Dick’s Mike Delaney on his ATM: At This Moment podcast, go to https://podcasts.apple.com/bw/podcast/s1-ep17-mike-delaney-cry-when-yr-young/id1759971591?i=1000678578548.

For information on Ben’s latest film project, Jack London Calling, and Pretorius Pictures generally, go to https://pretoriuspictures.tumblr.com/.

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1:28 Ben’s introduction
2:06 Ben explains why he chose It Grows on You for this episode
3:40 Ben and Al address the band’s name
4:43 Ben talks about first getting acquainted with Milk Dick through their live shows
5:20 Ben notes how Milk Dick combines their playful and serious sides
9:44 Ben talks about the theatrical nature of Milk Dick’s music, particularly on “Bathroom Door”
15:22 Ben provides some history on Milk Dick
18:03 Ben highlights “Grey Shapes” as one of his favorite songs on the album
19:50 Ben ponders the meaning of “My BF, Socrates”
21:34 Ben and Al talk about their reactions to “Rhythm Rock”
23:55 Is “Beach Needles (Coney)” in poor taste or ironic?
28:03 Ben reveals which track from It Grows on You is his favorite
30:40 Ben and Al discuss the brevity of the album’s songs
32:27 Ben talks about Delaney’s ability to confront his dark side
34:24 Ben addresses how It Grows on You has continued to be an important part of his life
35:37 Ben explains why he is a musical obsessive (or “cultural consumer”)
40:53 Ben shares which album he has listened to dozens of times this year
42:55 Al and Ben grapple with the definition of post-punk and how it applies to All Inside Aquarium
50:44 Ben talks about Bodega’s ‘60s and ‘90s inspirations
57:16 Ben elaborates on why All Inside Aquarium is so riffy
58:37 Ben explains why he started the ATM: At This Moment podcast
1:02:36 Ben talks about his upcoming film Jack London Calling

Outro music is from “Pick up the Check” by Bodega.
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Los Angeles-based Americana singer-songwriter Paula Fong joins Al to introduce him to Gillian Welch’s 1996 album Revival. Paula explores what made Revival instantly appealing to her, and she explains why it continues to be one of her favorite albums and an important influence on her own music. Paula also discusses her new album A Bird on the Wing and her collaboration with Nickel Creek guitarist Sean Watkins on her cover of “Turn! Turn! Turn!”.

For information on Paula’s music, upcoming live dates and more, visit her website paulafong.com. You can also follow her on Instagram and YouTube at @paulafongmusic.

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1:11 Paula’s introduction
2:19 Paula recalls how she first got acquainted with Revival
4:49 Paula explains why she was drawn to the sound of Revival right away
7:40 Paula and Al talk about the authenticity of Welch’s music
9:48 Al had to warm up to the album
10:47 Paula talks about a formative experience she had with Celtic folk music
13:32 Paula and Al talk about the importance of formative experiences in shaping musical tastes
15:18 Paula talks about what she finds particularly striking about the songs on Revival
19:52 Paula and Al have very different reactions to “Paper Wings”
22:42 Paula explains what separates Revival from the rest of Welch’s discography
24:22 Paula notes how influential David Rawlings’ guitar playing has been
25:44 Paula cites the ways in which Welch and Rawlings have influenced her music
30:01 Paula and Al get more clues that they have very different tastes
31:56 Paula and Al talk about the value of repeated listening
33:14 Paula explains how she wound up collaborating with Watkins on her cover of “Turn! Turn! Turn!”
37:46 Paula goes into how her version of “Turn! Turn! Turn!” got arranged
40:30 Paula explains the story behind “What Are We Running From”
44:49 Paula talks about her upcoming live dates

Outro music is from “Up and Out” by Paula Fong.
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For this episode, virtuoso drummer Cindy Blackman Santana chose her 2020 album Give the Drummer Some as the focus for this discussion, but she and Al branch out into a wide-ranging conversation about several of her albums. Cindy talks about why she decided to write and sing lyrics for Give the Drummer Some, and she highlights some of the album’s notable tracks. Cindy also discusses her 2010 Tony Williams tribute album Another Lifetime, her recently-released album Coherence and the upcoming self-titled release for the supergroup Power of 3 (with Orianthi and Rhonda Smith).

As Cindy mentions on the episode, she has several live dates with her band over the next few months. Here are the dates for her shows in Baltimore and New York. For more information, go to cindyblackmansantana.com.

Oct. 24-25, Keystone Corner, Baltimore, MD
Dec. 4-6, Blue Note NYC, New York, NY

For more information on Cindy’s recordings and shows, give her a follow on these platforms…
Instagram, TikTok: @cindyblackmansantana
Facebook: @cindyblackmandrummer

The Power of 3 is also on Instagram at @thepowerof3official

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1:24 Cindy’s introduction
2:23 Cindy explains why she wanted to talk about Give the Drummer Some
3:45 Cindy talks about the song that led to her making Give the Drummer Some with Narada Michael Walden
6:46 Cindy recalls how she took on the challenge of becoming a vocalist
9:14 Cindy discusses the songwriting process for Give the Drummer Some
15:44 Cindy highlights some of her favorite things about Give the Drummer Some
18:28 Cindy talks about the recording process for Give the Drummer Some
20:05 Cindy revisits her Tony Williams tribute album Another Lifetime
21:48 Cindy explains how her “suite” for “Coherence” came together
28:11 Cindy talks about the formation of the new supergroup The Power of 3
32:04 Cindy discusses the vinyl version of Coherence and her upcoming live dates

Outro music is from “Guitar Love” by Cindy Blackman Santana (feat. John McLaughlin and Carlos Santana).
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Jorina Stamm of the Swiss indie pop band Soft Loft joins Al for this week’s album deep dive, and she chose Phoebe Bridgers’ Lost Weekend (released on August 14) to discuss. Jorina explains why she wanted to talk about Lost Weekend and shares her early reactions to this highly-anticipated release. She also discusses how listening to Lost Weekend got her thinking more about concept albums. Jorina explains how Soft Loft unintentionally made a concept album with their recent release Throw the Dice, and she talks about the band’s upcoming tour dates and other plans.

Want to know more about Jorina and Soft Loft? You can find them in these places online…
softloftmusic.com (includes newsletter signup)
Instagram: @softloftsoftloft

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1:21 Jorina’s introduction
2:04 Jorina explains why she picked Lost Weekend for this episode
4:04 Jorina talks about her initial experience with listening to the album
5:35 Jorina explains how doing research enhanced her listening experience
6:54 Jorina and Al react to the album opening with “The Outside”
10:09 Jorina notes the songs that have stood out to her so far
11:51 Jorina explains what she likes about Bridgers’ songwriting
13:11 Jorina and Al talk about the speculation over how much Bridgers’ lyrics are about her personal relationships
17:30 Jorina highlights the musical aspects of the album she likes
18:47 Jorina explains why her experience with listening to Lost Weekend was not a typical one for her
21:20 Jorina and Al identify their go-to tracks for one-offs
26:49 Jorina talks about why she has recently revisited some of Bridgers’ earlier work
29:36 Jorina and Al discuss Cameron Winter’s involvement with the album
33:57 Al had a failed attempt at listening to Lost Weekend right when it came out
34:57 Jorina explains how the theme of Throw the Dice came together
41:26 Jorina talks about the reaction to “Wednesdays”
44:15 Jorina reveals Soft Loft’s upcoming plans

Outro music is from “What Are The Odds” by Soft Loft.
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Albuquerque-based Americana singer-songwriter Michael Rudd joins Al for a deep-dive analysis of Townes Van Zandt’s 1969 self-titled album. Michael explains why he admires Van Zandt’s songwriting, notes what makes this album a special one in Van Zandt’s discography and breaks down the album’s highlights. He also discusses how he became inspired to create a five-album cycle over the last few years and goes into detail on some of the tracks off his latest release, Midnight at Dawn.

You can find Michael’s music and keep up with him through the following places.
https://www.michaelrudd.com/
https://michaelrudd.bandcamp.com/
@michaelruddmusic on YouTube
@michael.rudd.music on Instagram and Facebook

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Al has put a pause on publishing new Bonus Tracks episodes, but you can listen to the past ones at the You, Me and An Album Patreon for $1/month. Just go to www.patreon.com/youmealbum.
1:16 Michael’s introduction
2:32 Michael talks about his relatively recent introduction to Townes Van Zandt’s music
4:18 Michael explains why Townes Van Zandt is a perfect album
5:15 Michael and Al discuss the emotional nature of “Fare Thee Well, Miss Carousel”
7:08 Michael explains why Van Zandt stands out to him among other great songwriters
12:21 Michael hears something about the Southwestern landscape in Van Zandt’s voice
13:25 Al and Michael discuss the spiritual nature of the lyrics in “Just For the Sake of the Song”
19:39 Michael picks out some of the other highlights from the album
25:37 How much does Michael listen to Townes Van Zandt?
26:39 Michael thinks the self-titled album distinguishes itself in Van Zandt’s discography
27:54 Michael explains how he wound up creating a five-album cycle
34:48 Michael talks about the perils of trying to interpret lyrics
37:11 Michael cites the biggest influence that Van Zandt has had on his own work
39:16 Michael discusses the meaning of “Made It Out of Jersey”
47:50 Michael provides an update on Palace of Flames

Outro music is from “Made It Out of Jersey” by Michael Rudd.
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