Zach Sang Show

It’s not every day a sitting governor stops by the couch. Gretchen Whitmer— the two-term Governor of Michigan, political lightning rod, and the politician affectionately nicknamed “Big Gretch” by the internet — joins us for a wide-ranging conversation that gets into both policy and personhood.
We talk about the realities of leadership: her eight-year legacy, the philosophy of underpromising and overdelivering, making the business case for equity, and why understanding people’s motivations matters more than simply talking at them. She reflects on the formative experiences that shaped her — from early ESPN commentator aspirations to unexpectedly finding her way into public service, plus the intensely difficult period where her mother became seriously ill while she was newly married, moving house, and starting life as a state representative.

We also get into healthcare battles, medical debt, aging parents, the Flint water crisis, abortion rights, tariffs, the kidnapping plot, parenting through political chaos, working with Donald Trump, and why she believes the antidote to apathy is action. Plus: what law she’d enact if she could wave a wand, what comes after public office, what she’s most proud of — and whether Zach thinks she should run for president (resounding yes!).

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It’s been a minute since Joshua was last on the couch. The last time in 2024 (https://tinyurl.com/muuvbhct) ,and then that time in 2021 (https://tinyurl.com/4e5kurcj), and every time he stops in, things get deep, fast. This interview is no different. The 25-year-old is back in the hot seat to discuss his memoir ‘Rookie: My Public, Private, and Secret Life,’ and much like his book, we cover everything: his early, formative years in Hollywood, the imposter syndrome, the public turning on him because of that song and his very serious brush with death. We also discuss his battles with body dysmorphia, substances and — trigger warning — sexual abuse and suicidal ideation.

It’s been a journey (one that’s included an Ayahuasca journey in fact) and it’s ongoing. Faith, routine, therapy, they’re all helping. We also talk ‘High School Musical: The Musical: The Series,’ his run off Broadway on ‘Little Shop of Horrors,’ getting inspired by Sombr and so much more.

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Twenty-five years since her last solo album Linda Perry is back and swinging with a super vulnerable documentary and album, ‘Let It Die Here,’ a record that sees her parse her complicated relationship with her mother and her ultimate passing. She’s confronting her own mortality too, not to mention how she was raised and who she’s continuing to become.

We get into all of this: she talks about being the sole songwriter of 4 Non Blondes monster hit “What’s Up,” the band’s implosion soon after and why, after all these years they’re back together and with brand new material slated for 2027 release.

And of course we get into her storied songwriting career: ‘Beautiful’ by Christina Aguilera, ‘Get the Party Started’ by Pink, to name just two, and how she discovered James Blunt and signed him to her label after all the majors had passed on him.

As an artist she’s very much of the Martha Graham school of thought — keep the channel open — and lives her life accordingly. We also discuss the state of the music industry, the beauty in imperfection, her control freak tendencies, and so much more.

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Phil Dunster became really pretty famous during the pandemic, thanks to the feelgood vibes of ‘Ted Lasso’ which we all tuned into during the pandemic, investing in the character arc of braggadocious footballer Jamie Tartt and his *insert fire emoji* on-and-offscreen chemistry with Roy Kent, played by Brett Goldstein. (Please refer to Brett Goldstein and Phil Dunster being mostly straight for 6:53 which also discuss in the interview.)

Although the 34-year-old isn’t back for ‘Ted Lasso’ season 4 (we talk about it), his career has gone from strength to strength, teaming up once more with showrunner and comedy genius Bill Lawrence (‘Scrubs,’ ‘Ted Lasso,’ ‘Shrinking’), for this new HBO Max comedy ‘Rooster.’

In it he plays the reprehensible Archie, and up himself Russian history professor who happens to be married to — and cheating on — Steve Carell’s daughter. Like all Lawrence-helmed comedies ‘Rooster’ treads the line between absurd, comedic, and heartwarming, and it’s been such a runaway success, it’s been renewed for a second season before the first finished airing.

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Can you believe it’s been 30 years since the release of the Spice Girls’ seminal debut single “Wannabe”? Bananas. Now in her 50s Melanie C — formerly Mel C, or known to many as Sporty Spice — joins us on the couch to chat about her new, euphoric album ‘Sweat.’ Born from her abiding love of dance music, which started as a teenager on the Costa Brava in Spain as a teenager and was reignited when she started DJing and hanging out with LDN’s influential queer DJ collective Sink the Pink.

We talk to her about all this, her workout regime (abs!), the harshness of British tabloids and the phone hacking scandal affected so many high profile people in the UK for well over a decade. Melanie also reflects on the Spice Girls — both then and now — and if a reunion might be on the cards.

Plus, she drops some great stories about Madonna and Liza Minelli, while also discussing some of the collaborators she worked with on ‘Sweat.’

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