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Mark Chenoweth & John Vecchione
Unwritten Law
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    Trump's New York Fraud Case Raises First Amendment Concerns

    11/04/2026 | 16 mins.
    Can New York punish someone for an inaccurate business statement even when no one was deceived, no one relied on it, and no one suffered a financial loss?
    That's the First Amendment issue NCLA is raising in the New York civil fraud case against President Donald Trump.
    NCLA has submitted an amicus brief to New York's highest court challenging the constitutionality of Executive Law § 63(12), a sweeping statute that NCLA argues allows the state attorney general to punish mere inaccuracies without proving the traditional elements of fraud, including intent to deceive, reliance, and harm.
    On this episode of Unwritten Law, Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione welcome NCLA Senior Litigation Counsel Caitlin Moyna, who authored the brief, to explain why the law poses a threat to free speech far beyond this particular dispute.
    They discuss the enormous financial penalty originally imposed against Trump, the intermediate appellate court's decision to strike down that monetary award, and the danger of giving government officials broad discretion to target individuals and businesses.
    NCLA's concern isn't limited to Trump. A law that gives prosecutors the power to punish harmless mistakes can threaten anyone's freedom of speech.
    The case is headed to oral argument before the New York Court of Appeals on January 5.
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    Corner Post: A Small Gas Station Takes Down a Federal Reserve Rule

    11/02/2026 | 28 mins.
    A small North Dakota gas station challenged a Federal Reserve regulation that had been on the books before the business even existed. After winning a landmark Supreme Court ruling in 2024, Corner Post's challenge has now resulted in another major victory.
    The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit affirmed a lower court ruling invalidating the Federal Reserve's debit-card interchange fee cap because the agency failed to follow the limits Congress established.
    On this episode of Unwritten Law, Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione welcome NCLA Senior Litigation Counsel Kara Rollins to discuss the latest development in Corner Post v. Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.
    They explain how debit-card transaction fees work, why the Federal Reserve exceeded its statutory authority, and how the Supreme Court's decisions in Corner Post and Loper Bright are reshaping challenges to federal regulations.
    The discussion also examines a troubling trend: After the Supreme Court overturned Chevron deference, federal agencies have increasingly defended their regulatory authority by claiming broad discretion instead.
    The central principle is simple: Congress writes the laws. Agencies must follow them.
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    Can Agency Guidance Add Time to Your Prison Sentence?

    10/29/2026 | 26 mins.
    Can government officials effectively increase someone's prison sentence through guidance that never went through the same approval process as the law itself?
    That's the issue at the heart of Beaird v. United States, a case recently argued before the U.S. Supreme Court.
    Federal judges use sentencing guidelines to determine the appropriate punishment for criminal offenses. But under a legal doctrine known as Stinson deference, judges must also defer to the Sentencing Commission's commentary interpreting those guidelines—even though that commentary does not necessarily undergo public review or the same congressional oversight as the guidelines themselves.
    And those interpretations can mean more time behind bars.
    On this episode of Unwritten Law, NCLA President and Chief Legal Officer Mark Chenoweth and Senior Litigation Counsel John Vecchione welcome Senior Litigation Counsel Kara Rollins to discuss the Supreme Court's oral arguments and NCLA's amicus brief opposing Stinson deference.
    They explore why the Justices appeared more divided than expected, how sentencing commentary can affect prison terms, and whether the Court's eventual decision could weaken the principles established in Loper Bright, which overturned Chevron deference.
    When someone's freedom is on the line, should judges independently interpret the law—or defer to an unelected commission's commentary?
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    Federal Agency Bans Lobbyist Who Challenged Its Chairman

    10/27/2026 | 18 mins.
    A longtime Washington lobbyist raises concerns with a federal agency, takes those concerns to the White House, and nearly a year later finds himself banned from the agency's offices.
    The Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) labeled Edward Krenik a “credible threat” to agency personnel and operations, but according to NCLA's lawsuit, never explained what he supposedly did to deserve the ban or gave him an opportunity to defend himself.
    On this episode of Unwritten Law, NCLA's John Vecchione and Mark Chenoweth welcome Senior Litigation Counsel Kara Rollins to discuss Krenik v. Feldman, NCLA's new lawsuit challenging the agency's actions.
    They examine Krenik's First Amendment rights to free speech and to petition the government, the possibility of retaliation for his advocacy, and the serious consequences the ban has had for his livelihood.
    Can a federal agency shut someone out simply because it doesn't like what he has to say?
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    Federal Judges Cannot Shield U.S. Attorneys from Presidential Removal

    10/19/2026 | 21 mins.
    Can the president fire a federal prosecutor appointed by judges?
    That's the constitutional question at the center of Trump v. Rogoff, a dispute now before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
    After federal judges appointed Roger Rogoff as U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Washington, President Trump fired him less than an hour later. Rogoff sued, arguing that the president lacked the authority to remove a court-appointed prosecutor. A district court granted a preliminary injunction in Rogoff's favor, but the Ninth Circuit stayed that order while the appeal proceeds.
    On this episode of Unwritten Law, NCLA President and Chief Legal Officer Mark Chenoweth and Senior Litigation Counsel John Vecchione welcome Senior Litigation Counsel Jacob Huebert to discuss NCLA's newly filed amicus brief.
    NCLA argues that the president has the constitutional authority to remove U.S. attorneys, regardless of who appointed them. The brief also raises a broader constitutional concern: whether federal judges should be appointing executive-branch prosecutors in the first place.
    Mark, John, and Jacob examine the Supreme Court's recent Trump v. Slaughter decision, the separation of powers, the role of the Senate in confirming federal prosecutors, and why this dispute could have implications far beyond Washington State.
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Every day, unelected federal agencies make decisions that affect your job, your business, your speech, your property, and your constitutional rights—often without Congress ever voting on them. From the rules that govern small businesses to the regulations that shape everyday life, the modern administrative state reaches further than most Americans realize. On Unwritten Law, constitutional lawyers Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione break down the biggest legal battles involving federal agencies, government overreach, and the Constitution. Each episode explores real cases challenging the expanding power of the administrative state, explaining how these disputes affect ordinary Americans, businesses, and the future of limited government. Whether the topic is the Supreme Court, free speech, property rights, due process, jury trials, executive power, or the separation of powers, Unwritten Law explains the legal issues behind today's biggest constitutional debates in clear, accessible language. You'll hear directly from the attorneys litigating landmark cases, as well as clients whose lives and livelihoods have been changed by unlawful government action. Produced by the New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA), Unwritten Law takes listeners behind the headlines to explain how federal agencies exercise regulatory power, how constitutional challenges move through the courts, and why these cases matter—even if you've never stepped inside a courtroom. If you've ever wondered who really writes the rules that govern your life, why unelected bureaucrats hold so much authority, or how the Constitution protects individual liberty, Unwritten Law will give you the context, the legal insight, and the real-world stories behind today's most important fights for civil liberties. Whether you're a lawyer, business owner, public servant, student, or simply someone who wants to better understand how government power affects everyday life, Unwritten Law gives you the legal insight behind the headlines—and the constitutional principles that protect individual liberty. Subscribe each week for conversations about Supreme Court litigation, constitutional law, the administrative state, federal agencies, government accountability, civil liberties, free speech, property rights, due process, separation of powers, regulatory power, and the legal battles shaping the future of American government.
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