Trump v. Slaughter: The Supreme Court Case That Could End Humphrey’s Executor
In this episode of Unwritten Law, Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione welcome Margot Cleveland to unpack the Supreme Court case Trump v. Slaughter, a historic challenge to whether the President can remove commissioners of the Federal Trade Commission at will.They walk through the key amicus briefs, Professor Caleb Nelson’s arguments, and Philip Hamburger’s response in the Yale Journal on Regulation emphasizing the Constitution’s unitary executive structure. The trio also discuss the foreign-policy powers exercised by modern independent agencies and why the Court may finally be ready to overturn Humphrey’s Executor. A deep dive into one of the most important separation-of-powers cases of the term.
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What “Necessary” Really Means: Kara Rollins on Fixing Discretion in Federal Law
John Vecchione sits down with NCLA’s Kara Rollins to unpack her new article published in the Yale Journal on Regulation, written as part of an online symposium analyzing Senator Eric Schmitt’s post–Loper Bright working-group report. Kara breaks down the misunderstood concept of “necessary” discretion in statutes, how agencies exploit vague language to expand their power, and why Congress should reform definition sections—rather than abandon useful legislative terms. They also discuss real-world examples from NCLA’s litigation, including R-CALF and Magnuson-Stevens, and explore how tighter drafting could rein in overreach in the post-Chevron era.Read Kara’s full article here:https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/necessary-discretion-a-primer-for-non-lawyers-by-kara-mckenna-rollins/
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Inside the 2025 Federalist Society Convention: Debates, Direction, and What Stood Out
Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione recap the 2025 Federalist Society National Lawyers Convention, offering candid insight into what made this year’s gathering different. From Judge Andy Oldham’s powerful Barbara Olson Lecture to unexpected debate pairings and shifts in programming philosophy, they break down where the convention excelled — and where it missed opportunities.They discuss the tension between staging debates for show versus digging into substantive legal questions, the increasing presence of younger speakers, the lack of deep dives on topics like tariffs and administrative overreach, and the overall feel of the event’s intellectual energy. Mark and John also highlight memorable moments, including the conversation with Justices Barrett and Kavanaugh, Steve Bradbury’s Department of Transportation panel, and a compelling discussion on free speech rights for non-citizens.A mix of recap, critique, and commentary, this episode gives listeners an insider’s view of how the conservative legal movement’s biggest annual gathering is evolving in 2025.
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Necessary Discretion: Kara Rollins on Statutory Power and Agency Limits
John Vecchione sits down with Kara Rollins to explore her recent piece in the Yale Journal on Regulation titled “Necessary” Discretion: A Primer for Non-Lawyers. They delve into what it really means when legislatures grant agencies the authority to act when something is “necessary,” how courts interpret these trigger‐words, and why this matters for administrative power. From the Spending Clause to rule‐making, this conversation breaks down complex doctrine in plain terms and shows how “necessary” might mean more than you think.
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Auto-Pen & Accountability: What the Oversight Committee Found About the Biden White House
Senior Litigation Counsel Margaret Harker joins Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione to unpack the House Oversight Committee’s auto-pen investigation — a 100-page probe that raises serious questions about President Biden’s cognitive fitness, missing decision records, and last-minute pardons allegedly authorized via an auto-pen rather than by the President himself. They discuss the committee’s referral to the Department of Justice, the legal issues around voiding pardons, and why the report’s findings matter for presidential accountability and the rule of law.
Unwritten Law is a podcast hosted by Mark Chenoweth and John Vecchione, brought to you by the New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA). This show dives deep into the world of unlawful administrative power, exposing how bureaucrats operate outside the bounds of written law through informal guidance, regulatory “dark matter,” and unconstitutional agency overreach.
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