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  • Can We Disagree Without Contempt? — Tim Shriver (The Dignity Index)
    What if you could disagree with someone — even someone who attacks your beliefs — without losing your cool or your dignity? Tim Shriver, chairman of Special Olympics International and co-creator of The Dignity Index, joins host Julie Rose to unpack how contempt creeps into our conversations and how to replace it with curiosity, humility, and respect. Together they explore: - What “The Dignity Index” is and how it evaluates our dialogue - Why we often find contempt hiding inside ourselves - How to respond with dignity when someone lashes out - Why kindness isn’t weakness but power Learn more about The Dignity Index: https://www.dignity.us Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/11/can-we-disagree-without-contempt-tim.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Tim Shriver: Special Olympics and The Dignity Index 03:48 Understanding The Dignity Index Scale 07:51 The Power of Words and Dignity 08:51 Responding to Personal Attacks with Dignity 13:54 Changing the Culture of Contempt 17:21 Conclusion
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  • How One Citizen Got Congress to Work Together on Climate Change — Jay Butera and Sam Daley-Harris
    What does it really take to make your voice heard in Congress? In this episode, Host Julie Rose talks with Sam Daley-Harris, founder of RESULTS and Civic Courage, and Jay Butera, the citizen advocate who helped create the bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus in Congress. Jay shares how he spent three years hearing “no” before finally convincing one Republican member of Congress to say “yes” to working across the aisle on climate change. Sam explains how transformational advocacy—showing up, building trust, and listening deeply—can turn ordinary citizens into powerful changemakers. Sam’s book, Reclaiming Our Democracy: Every Citizen's Guide to Transformational Advocacy - https://reclaimingourdemocracy.com/ Get in touch with Sam – https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdCQuqj-4O2eh4Sfy_E-dfVntbPlqg1A4T4oQ8E2J0nuZbD-w/viewform Climate Solutions Caucus - https://climatesolutionscaucus-garbarino.house.gov/ Top of Mind episode on what to do if you’re feeling unheard by Congress - https://www.byuradio.org/feeling-unheard-by-congress-heres-what-you-need-to-know Subscribe for more stories about growth, discomfort, and courage! CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Sam Daley-Harris and Jay Butera 01:14 The Birth of the Climate Solutions Caucus 02:07 Challenges and Breakthroughs in Advocacy 05:33 Building Relationships in Congress 08:09 The Turning Point: Congressman Curbelo's Involvement 12:06 Impact and Reflections on Advocacy 17:49 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
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  • He Walked 4,000 Miles Across America. What Did He Learn? — Andrew Forsthoefel
    What happens when you walk across America with nothing but a backpack, a mandolin, and a sign that says, “Walking to Listen”? Host Julie Rose sits down with author and restorative practices consultant Andrew Forsthoefel to explore the power of vulnerability, the discomfort of rejection, and the surprising beauty of human connection. Andrew shares stories from his 4,000-mile journey — from receiving a knife and a warning not to trust anyone, to being invited into a forest camp by strangers offering cookies and apple juice. He reflects on how discomfort can be a gateway to growth, and how listening can be a radical act of love. Andrew now works with public schools to lead restorative listening circles, helping students and educators build trust, navigate conflict, and foster belonging through vulnerability. Learn more about Andrew’s work and writing at https://littlecourtyard.substack.com. LISTENER SURVEY - https://forms.cloud.microsoft/r/yi9fSNB8NG What does vulnerability mean to you? Have you ever leaned into discomfort and found something powerful on the other side? Share your story with us at [email protected] or on Instagram @uncomfy.podcast. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:36 Meet Andrew Forsthoefel: Walking to Listen 01:06 The Journey Begins: Early Encounters 02:16 Lessons from the Road: Trust and Vulnerability 06:58 Facing Rejection and Hostility 12:13 Special Request: Listener Survey 12:41 A Society That Respects Vulnerability 14:30 Restorative Listening Circles in Schools 19:56 Conclusion 20:57 Special Request Reminder
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  • How Bruce Springsteen Saved My Life: Anne Abel’s Story of Depression and “High Hopes”
    When Anne Abel hit an all-time low at 59, she never expected a Bruce Springsteen concert to change her life. After years of battling severe recurrent depression and losing her memory to electroconvulsive therapy, Anne found a spark of hope in Springsteen — a spark that led her to travel alone to Australia for eight concerts in five cities. That trip became the start of a new life filled with courage, creativity, and connection. Now at 72, Anne is a storyteller, author, and social media creator with nearly a million followers, inspiring others to keep going when life feels impossible. Learn more about Anne’s new memoir, “High Hopes,” and her other work: https://anneabelauthor.com. Follow Anne on social media (@annesimaabel): https://linktr.ee/anneabel How do you handle the self-critical voices in your head? Or what’s something scary you’ve done lately that took real courage? We’d love to hear from you! Share your thoughts in the comments, email us at [email protected], or connect with us on social media. LISTENER SURVEY - https://forms.cloud.microsoft/r/yi9fSNB8NG Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/10/how-bruce-springsteen-saved-my-life.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Anne Abel 01:41 The Life-Changing Bruce Springsteen Concert 03:31 A Journey to Australia: Finding Hope 05:12 Daily Struggles and Coping Mechanisms 6:48 Midroll for Listener Survey 7:16 Challenging Self-Critical Voices 12:35 The Power of Storytelling and Social Media 17:45 Conclusion
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  • Should Political Conversations Be Happening at Church? — Reverend Clay Stauffer
    Should politics be off-limits in church? Reverend Clay Stauffer doesn’t think so. Two months after a member of his congregation was killed in The Covenant School shooting, Rev. Stauffer invited his community to gather in their sanctuary for a discussion about gun violence — a conversation most churches would rather avoid. Host Julie Rose talks with him about what compelled him to do it, why he believes churches should be “big tents” where people with different views can still talk and stay connected, and how avoiding politics in church might actually make divisions worse. They also explore why people of faith might be especially equipped to lead with empathy and peace. Clay Stauffer is the senior minister at Woodmont Christian Church in Nashville, professor of moral leadership at Vanderbilt University, and author of “What the World Needs Now: Virtue and Character in an Age of Chaos.” Learn more about Dr. Stauffer’s work at https://claystauffer.com/. What do you think? Should faith and politics mix or stay separate? Tell us in the comments, connect with us on social media, or share your thoughts at [email protected]. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/10/should-political-conversations-be.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:44 Meet Reverend Clay Stauffer 01:13 The Role of Church in Political Conversations 02:34 Addressing Political Violence and Incivility 06:15 Gun Violence and Community Safety 08:59 The Intersection of Faith and Politics 10:58 The Rise of Political Partisanship 12:58 Finding Solutions in Faith 14:11 Conclusion
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About Uncomfy: Sticking with Moments That Challenge Us

Real stories from guests who dared to get uncomfortable in a moment that challenged their worldview. In the thick of intense emotions, they chose to stay curious and open, rather than lash out or shy away, and came out the other side with stronger relationships, clearer beliefs, and increased confidence. And you can do it too! So, if you: • Want to engage with others on important topics but aren’t sure how, OR • Are burned out on social media and wish you could bring the humanity back into discussions online or in real life, Look no further! Whether you're a seasoned seeker of new ideas or just dipping your toes into the uncomfy waters, this podcast is your go-to destination for learning how to improve your communication, disagree more productively, and be a more inspired leader. In such a polarized world, we believe learning how to stick with moments that challenge us, without getting defensive or shutting down, is a direct antidote for division. Are you ready to lean in, listen up, and get uncomfy with us? Let's dive in together! Uncomfy: Sticking with Moments that Challenge Us is hosted by journalist Julie Rose and is a BYUradio production. #reallifestories #communication #polarization #relationshipskills #communicationskills #leadershipskills #leadershiptraining #community #communitybuilding #disagreebetter #buildingbridges #perspectives #worldview #resilience #emotionalresiliance #mentalhealth #training #mindfulness #conflictresolution #growthmindset #empowerment #problemsolving #respect #curiosity #activelistening #collaboration
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