The Underdog Physician Podcast

On the Underdog Physician Podcast, host Anish interviews Dr. Chiagozie Fawole, a Johns Hopkins–trained pediatric anesthesiologist, real estate investor, and founder of Savvy Docs, about building wealth outside medicine through real estate and business acquisitions. Born and raised in Nigeria, she moved to the U.S. at 16, studied at Howard, attended Johns Hopkins for medical school, initially pursued neurosurgery but did not match, and chose anesthesia for a better lifestyle. She shares her first entrepreneurial experience—a long-distance house flip during residency that lost $10,000 due largely to not staging—then explains moving into multifamily syndication, BRRRR duplexes in Syracuse, and a 2021 pivot to short-term rentals. She discusses shifting focus to acquiring “boring” cash-flowing businesses using SBA financing, her acquisition buy box (≥$1M revenue, ≥10 employees, 5–10+ years old, strong leadership bench), and using AI to improve operations, plus how family support, delegation, and automation help her manage time.
00:00 Meet Dr. Chiagozie Fawole
00:51 From Nigeria to Hopkins
01:32 Finding Anesthesia
02:42 Lifestyle by Design
03:52 First Real Estate Flip
06:12 Losing 10K Lessons
07:35 Scaling to Multifamily
08:37 Syndication Mindset
10:51 BRRRR to Short Term
11:34 Why Real Estate Focus
13:31 Pivot to Acquisitions
15:58 Buy Box Criteria
18:26 AI and Future Proofing
19:58 Team and Automation
22:04 Savvy Docs Mission
23:42 Work Life Counterbalance
25:54 Books and Mindset
26:13 Wealthier Doctors Better Care
26:57 Closing Thoughts

On the Underdog Physician podcast, Dr. Amna Shabbir— board-certified internal medicine and geriatrics physician, speaker, coach, and host of Success Reimagined—shares how pandemic stress, added family responsibilities, and severe postpartum depression led her to reframe her career, pursue a geriatrics fellowship as a healing reset, and step away from core academia to part-time post-acute/long-term care. She distinguishes moral injury from burnout as cumulative distress. She discusses perfectionism versus healthy striving, emphasizing intrinsic motivation, learning to fail, and risk tolerance for entrepreneurship. Amna describes the Early Career Physician Institute’s coaching, advocacy, and organizational cohorts focused on boundaries, communication, confidence, negotiation, and retention, and notes AI is a tool whose impact depends on intent and physician empowerment. She is also writing a book on perfectionism and emphasizes seasonality over “balance,” rest, non-negotiables, and rejecting narratives that people are broken.

00:00 Meet Dr. Amna Shabbir
00:46 Burnout After Residency
02:17 Geriatrics And Reframing
03:37 Coaching Roots And Support
05:41 Moral Injury Explained
07:09 Perfectionism And Failure
10:30 Early Career Institute Mission
13:43 Coaching Formats And Results
16:44 Identity Beyond The White Coat
20:44 AI And Physician Empowerment
22:41 Writing A Book On Perfectionism
23:58 Ditching Balance For Seasons
26:36 Legacy And How To Connect
27:55 Final Thanks And Resources

On the Underdog Physician Podcast, ER physician, chief medical officer, and FI Cap Fund general partner Dr. Vipul Kella shares how watching “ER” and rotating in inner-city Detroit drew him to emergency medicine, and how frustration with being downstream of innovation, corporatization, and loss of autonomy pushed him toward startups and venture capital. He explains that clinical experience—not an MBA—is the primary differentiator for physicians in VC and advises entrepreneurs to start before conditions are perfect, think beyond patient care to all stakeholders, and build networks with a non-transactional mindset. Vipul describes a GP’s work as mainly fundraising, sourcing and diligence on early-stage health tech deals, and building a clinician-driven LP network to accelerate adoption. He discusses AI opportunities in admin workflows, clinical decision support, wearables, digital biomarkers, and precision medicine, outlines startup evaluation and timing for VC funding, warns about equity-only advisory roles, and shares time-management and health priorities.

00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro
00:25 Origin Story to ER
01:26 Why Pivot to VC
02:59 MBA and Real Value
06:16 Startup Lessons Learned
07:31 Networking and Reciprocity
10:52 Life as a VC Partner
13:03 Physician LP Model
14:51 AI and Future Healthcare
17:21 Longevity Hype Reality
19:02 How VCs Evaluate Startups
22:07 When to Raise VC
24:41 Mentors and Career Paths
27:23 Advisory Equity Risks
30:24 Time Management Balance
32:19 Mission and Closing

On the Underdog Physician podcast, Anish interviews Jared Fischer, founder and CEO of Healthimize, a certified health optimization coach who blends 25 years as a touring percussionist with integrated nutrition, biohacking, and strength training to help high performers beat burnout. Jared shares his journey from a farm upbringing and years of partying as a musician to sobriety after his mother’s death and COVID, followed by a fitness transformation that led him to earn integrative nutrition and NASM personal training certifications and go fully online. He outlines his Health Optimize blueprint pillars: a nutritional reset featuring a 24-hour fast, 10-day reset, whole foods and macro tracking; and a strength/movement accelerator with phased programs adaptable to limited resources, including 15-minute workouts and walking. He discusses green tea, whey protein, creatine, program durations, bootstrapping and mentorship for marketing/sales, and his vision for AI in healthcare plus corporate wellness plans to reduce insurance premiums

00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro
01:07 What Health Optimization Means
02:07 From Farm to Rock Bottom
03:54 Recovery and New Purpose
06:14 Healthimize Coaching Blueprint
06:35 Nutrition Reset and Tracking
08:10 Strength Training That Fits
10:06 15 Minute Workouts and Walking
12:07 Supplements Green Tea Creatine
13:47 Program Length and Habits
15:11 Building an Online Coaching Startup
17:49 Mentorship Marketing and Sales
19:10 Bootstrapping and Reinvesting
20:36 Future of AI and Biohacking
23:09 Legacy and Corporate Wellness
24:53 Final Thanks and Wrap Up

On the Underdog Physician Podcast, we interview healthcare SEO strategist David Kaminski, founder of Collaborate Pros, about helping dentists, med spas, podiatrists, and physicians generate patients through Google Maps and organic search. David shares his origin story from building a multimillion-dollar window cleaning business without paid ads by focusing on free Google traffic, and explains SEO as placing the right search terms (especially high-intent “near me” queries) in website and Google Business Profile content. He highlights common mistakes like inconsistency in Google Business activity and blogging, discusses using AI-assisted blog writing with human editing plus images, links, and videos, and outlines his company’s automations, interlinking strategies, and fit criteria. He also covers KPI tracking, team incentives, and his goal of helping business owners grow.

00:00 Podcast Welcome
01:21 David Origin Story
01:49 Free Google Traffic
03:38 Tech Roots and College
04:38 Why Window Cleaning
05:37 Delegation and Incentives
08:32 Launching Collaborate Pros
09:57 SEO Basics Explained
11:04 Google Profile Consistency
12:59 AI Blog Posts and Ranking
15:36 Automation Marketing Stack
16:42 Homepage SEO Interlinking
17:38 Industry Collaboration Links
18:16 Pricing And ROI Proof
19:24 Best Fit Clients
20:00 How Long It Takes
21:07 Remote Practices And Maps
22:02 Transactional Search Intent
23:52 Beating Big Competitors
25:13 KPI Tracking And Branding
27:00 Work Life And Habits
28:39 Weekly KPI Rhythm Traction
29:26 Legacy And Wrap Up