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335. Jess McClain Sprints to HISTORY at the NYC Marathon! Reactions and Training Theory from A Wild Weekend
11/03/2026 | 1h 33 mins.JESS MCCLAIN 2ND AT THE NYC MARATHON! In an iconic sprint finish! On one level, we are not surprised. But on another level, WTF?!
Jess is one of our life heroes, and we break down what we have learned from her. 2 years ago, after having a tougher day at NYC, she took a chance on us as coaches. Her belief changed our lives forever. And this weekend, she got to share her kindness and joy and FIRE with the whole world in a way that will be remembered forever!
Translation: we were extremely excited for this episode. We talk about her 2nd place (the first American on the podium in NYC since Shalane Flanagan in 2018), Rachael Rudel’s win at the Dash to the Finish 5k, what we are learning about training theory, and all of the wild experiences from NYC. Our goal is to bring you into the whole experience, so it can be like you were there!
In conclusion, WTF?? (I'm talking about the pasta description you won't be able to unhear)
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10/26/2026 | 1h 27 mins.We got in trouble at the gym before this great episode! The main topic was a new study tying deteriorating fatigue resistance to increased duty factor (ground contact time). Essentially, the longer the foot stays on the ground after a couple hours of work, the worse the fatigue resistance. That points toward neuromuscular interventions that could improve endurance.
And this one was full of awesome topics! Other topics: lactate gel experimentation, the major doping bust in road marathoning, menthol gels, our issues with high-carb drink mixes in ultras, how sweat rate varies across an event, a study on deception methods improving performance, steady running the day after long runs, shaving your legs, Strava etiquette, the problems with MAF training, and a big discussion of why we look to training approaches that work for pro female athletes to derive some training theory.
Welcome to the best episode! Oh, actually that’s supposed to say “vest” episode. We regret the error.
We love you all! HUZZAH!
David
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For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap333. Ways That We’ve Been Wrong, The Weirdness of Eccentric Muscle Contraction Adaptation, and The Reproducibility Crisis!
10/20/2026 | 1h 26 mins.We had to clear our search history after this great episode! The main topic was a list of the ways we’ve been wrong in coaching. Examples: fasted training, treadmills, heart rate monitors, squats, and lots more. We use the discussion as a chance to zoom out and make jokes that had to be censored.
We also talked about a new study on eccentric muscle contractions, which found persistent adaptations for 6+ weeks after a single stimulus. WTF is going on?! There are major implications for how we think about training for all types of events.
And this one was full of fun topics! Other topics: our curse removal, elliptical training, a follow-up on the ultimate carbs study from last week, the problem of reproducibility of adaptations in exercise science, and lots more.
We love you all! Huzzah!
-David and Megan
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For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap332. The Ultimate Carb Study, Chicago Marathon Hot Takes, The Shoe of Destiny, and Elliptical Training!
10/13/2026 | 1h 29 mins.The carbs were flowing for this great episode! The main topic was a new study on carb intake that answered so many open questions about fueling. And in the process, it inadvertently dunked on the low carb studies from last year! Get ready, we have a new all-time favorite study.
We also talked about the Chicago Marathon, focusing on the American athletes taking big swings at the front. We might love Vinny Mauri even more than we love that carb study.
And there were tons of more fun topics! Other topics: our new shoe of destiny, the best caffeine gels, a big discussion of advanced training and health in the high-carb era, a pair of carb studies that help explain what we’re seeing in the real world, the low volume base training plan, the Ironman World Champs finish, elliptical training, Chip Kelly and adapting coaching approaches for athlete skills, AI solving math problems, the Taco Bell 50k, Rachael Rudel's breakout season, and lots more.
We love you all! Huzzah!
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For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap331. The Training Episode! 10 Lessons from Pro Road Runners, Vinny Mauri’s Unreal Approach, US 10k Champs, and Zone Compression in Cycling
10/06/2026 | 1h 28 mins.On this episode, we got extremely excited by some of the coolest training theory. So we just ran with it!
The big discussion was on the 10 lessons we have learned from coaching pro road runners. David took a trip to the US 10k Champs this weekend, where Emily Venters won, Allie Ostrander was 3rd, and Amanda Vestri was 4th. It gave us a lot of fodder to talk about what we’re seeing and hearing behind the scenes of the performance revolution.
Other topics: new standards for iron deficiency, Vinny Mauri’s wild training for the Chicago Marathon, our excitement for Emma Grace Hurley’s debut, the cycling World Championships, what we can learn from the evolution of cycling theory, and lots more.
We had so much fun nerding out on this one. Thank you all for being here!
-David and Megan
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Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!
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