SHIFT

From deciding where to build a new business, airport or fire station, to understanding the potential impact of decisions regarding conservation or governance, people make billions of maps everyday using GIS. We explore the history and evolution of this tech with one of its pioneers, in the latest installment of our oral history project.
This episode originally aired in November 2024. 

We Meet:
Esri Founder & President Jack Dangermond

Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong and Emma Cillekens, and it was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Meg Marco.

We know that kids spending time on social media are more likely to experience depression and anxiety. Less clear, and far more contentious, is the role we expect of schools, governments, and tech companies, and some parents are organizing.

We Meet: 
Mothers Against Media Addiction (MAMA) Founder Julie Scelfo

This episode of our oral history project originally aired in March 2025. Since then, MAMA has grown to nearly 50 chapters nationwide, and a California court found Meta and YouTube liable for designing addictive products that harm kids - a case Scelfo has called a major win for the movement.

Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Meg Marco.

Planet co-founder Robbie Schingler argues AI's next leap requires teaching it about the physical world, not just text. Join us as he traces the company's path from university dorm-room satellites to a daily record of the planet, in the latest installment of our oral history project. 

We Meet:  
Planet Labs co-founder Robbie Schingler 

Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Meg Marco.

Water shows up at every stage of the AI supply chain: to manufacture chips, to generate the power that runs them, and then more water to cool the chips in data centers. It's believed that AI's water needs by 2030 could roughly match the drinking needs of the entire United States, and less than 5% of this water is currently recycled. 
Ecolab CEO Christophe Beck joins us with a look at how he thinks the industry can grow without draining communities dry.

We Meet:  
Ecolab CEO Christophe Beck

Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Meg Marco.

From Las Vegas, where AI and security conferences are putting agentic risk front and center, we explore the identity crisis inside enterprise AI, and what it means to have machines managing machines.
 
We Meet:  SailPoint President Matt Mills 

Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Meg Marco.