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    Even as America Fights Iran, It’s Not Ready for China—with Eyck Freymann

    03/31/2026 | 50 mins.
    Eyck Freymann, Hoover Fellow at Stanford University and author of Defending Taiwan: A Strategy to Prevent War with China, joins the show to explain the complexities of deterrence against China, the strategic challenges in the Indo-Pacific, and the implications of the wars in Ukraine and Iran for Taiwan. We break down China’s plausible gray-zone tactics like quarantine and coercive mobilization, and how these tools, if unchecked, could lead to a total economic or military break. Where are the vulnerabilities in the U.S. defense industrial base, in naval and trade logistics, and in missile magazine depth?

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    01:45 No path out  

    04:13 Maintaining balance     

    10:18 Kasserine lessons

    16:51 China’s possible moves in the gray-zone

    22:53 More stockpiling 

    27:33 Invasion

    34:21 Decapitation and bombardment 

    39:20 An economic and political problem 

    46:42 The Summit

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    How Can America Defeat Iran? With John Spencer

    03/27/2026 | 43 mins.
    John Spencer, Chair of Urban Warfare Studies at the Modern War Institute at West Point and host of the Urban Warfare Project podcast, joins the show to break down how the U.S. and Israel are executing a 'neurological' campaign—using precision, targeted strikes on the Iranian Regime and its center of gravity. A strategy that’s as old as Clausewitz but more relevant than ever. How are the U.S. and Israel balancing the psychological impact of their precision strikes in tandem with the more traditional threat of brute force? What might this approach reveal about today’s conflicts, and how might it influence the next global showdown? 

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    03:25 Targeting as strategy  

    10:40 Neurological strike     

    20:16 An evolution in military affairs

    26:30 Adaptation 

    30:48 Center of gravity

    39:37 The missile program

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    Are We About to Send the Marines Into Iran? With Rich Goldberg and Garrett Exner

    03/23/2026 | 57 mins.
    Rich Goldberg, senior advisor at FDD, and Garrett Exner, adjunct fellow at Hudson Institute, break down what’s really happening behind the headlines — from covert strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites to the fragile possibility of reopening the Strait of Hormuz. How are the U.S., Israel, and Iran navigating the negotiations, and are there any operational knock-on effects? What are the realities and complexities of potential ground invasions, targeted raids, and covert operations that could shape the next phase of conflict? What are the risks of seizing Kharg Island or launching strikes on Iran’s underground nuclear facilities?  How does the Iranian regime’s use of civilian infrastructure complicate precise strikes, and how do intelligence gaps and political signals influence U.S. decisions? What is the strategic significance of Kharg Island, what are the challenges of amphibious operations along Iran’s long coastline, and what are the odds of a ground campaign in the coming weeks? 

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    02:42 Negotiations 

    09:17 U.S. options     

    15:35 Ground forces

    18:53 M.E.U

    25:35 Kharg Island

    37:53 Silence on the nuclear program

    45:13 JSOC

    53:02 Acting with speed

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    Did Trump Miscalculate on Iran? with Niall Ferguson

    03/20/2026 | 58 mins.
    Sir Niall Ferguson, Milbank Family Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and columnist at The Free Press, reveals how geography and choke points have always been pivotal in global conflicts and just like the Dardanelles during WWI, today’s hotspots like the Straits of Hormuz and Taiwan remind us that some strategic challenges never change. What exactly are chokepoints and why do they matter? How do the lessons of Gallipoli and Ukraine apply to the war with Iran? How is the current situation different from the Tanker War and WWI? Can naval and air power alone open the Strait of Hormuz and keep it open? Is there a timeline for success? And what does this all mean for U.S. magazine depth, the economy, and China?

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    02:49 Gallipoli

    11:08 Unintended consequences     

    18:10 Ukraine

    26:22 A failure of perception

    31:36 The right call by Trump? 

    37:34 Regime alteration

    47:05 Timeframes

    53:33 China

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    Can Trump Beat China by Winning In Iran? with Zineb Riboua

    03/17/2026 | 36 mins.
    Zineb Riboua, research fellow with Hudson Institute’s Center for Peace andSecurity in the Middle East, joins the show to talk about the ongoing U.S.-Israeli war with Iran, focusing on China's interests and involvement. How dependent is China on the region's energy resources? How does China project power in the Middle East and in Africa? Is China benefiting or suffering from the current war? What are the geopolitical and strategic considerations for both Beijing and D.C.?

    Times02:19 Going badly for China06:24 Specific military goals07:47 China & the Middle East12:44 Iranian Oil15:34 Layers18:12 Trump and Xi22:54 Conditions in the Strait of Hormuz26:46 Best case/worst case scenarios29:42 Russia and Africa33:36 Strategic revenge

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In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war. Tune in as School of War takes you to the front lines. Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps. Visit our Substack for episode transcripts Follow along on Instagram
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