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Ryan and Steven Watts of Red River Development join Chris to break down the build-to-rent market, why Red River focuses on secondary markets, and how recent housing legislation could reshape the future of single-family rental investing.

Ryan and Steven share how their backgrounds in energy, banking, construction, development, and property management led them to launch Red River in 2020, right as COVID was reshaping housing demand and capital markets. Since then, the company has grown to more than 2,200 units and roughly $690 million in assets under management, with a focus on purpose-built rental communities designed for renters who want more space, privacy, and flexibility than traditional apartments can offer.

The conversation also digs into the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act and why early Senate language could have been highly disruptive to the build-to-rent industry. Steven explains why the final version was ultimately positive for BTR, how it preserved the distinction between scattered-site single-family rental aggregation and purpose-built rental communities, and why institutional capital may increasingly shift toward BTR as a result.

Chris, Ryan, and Steven also get tactical on Red River’s current Waco, Texas project: a 206-home Trulo Homes community on 20 acres near major retail, entertainment, downtown Waco, and Baylor University. They walk through the capital stack, construction debt, personal guarantees, commercial construction approach, phasing strategy, and how Red River de-risks development by lining up permits, contractors, GMP pricing, and leasing phases before and during construction.

Key takeaways:

How Ryan and Steven’s backgrounds led to the launch of Red River Development

Why build-to-rent serves renters graduating out of apartments or downsizing from homeownership

How the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act changed from a potential BTR headwind into a positive catalyst

Why institutional capital may move away from scattered-site rentals and toward purpose-built BTR communities

What Red River looks for in secondary markets, suburban sites, demographics, schools, retail access, and job centers

How the Waco project is structured, including a 65% loan-to-cost construction loan and a $55 million total capitalization

Why Red River uses a commercial construction approach to build faster and reduce execution risk

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Jeff Axley of Ridgeline Capital Partners joins Chris to break down medical office buildings, one of the healthcare real estate niches more LPs are starting to pay attention to. Jeff walks through how his background across office, multifamily, development, restructuring, industrial, and master-planned communities ultimately led him to focus on medical office as a more durable, recession-resilient asset class.

Chris and Jeff start with the basics: what medical office buildings are, how they differ from hospitals, senior housing, skilled nursing, assisted living, and other parts of the healthcare real estate landscape, and why outpatient care has become such an important long-term trend. Jeff explains why medical office can behave like traditional office in some ways, but with important differences: longer leases, triple-net structures, higher tenant improvement costs, more specialized build-outs, and stickier tenants who are much harder to move once they have expensive medical infrastructure in place.

They also dig into the current market opportunity. While traditional office and multifamily have faced major headwinds, medical office occupancy and rents remain strong, with supply typically built to match tenant demand rather than speculative growth. Jeff explains why buying existing medical office at a meaningful discount to replacement cost can create a protected basis, how rising construction costs support the value of existing buildings, and what LPs should look for when evaluating MOB underwriting.

Key takeaways:

What medical office buildings are and how they fit into the broader healthcare real estate landscape

Why outpatient care, aging demographics, technology, and reimbursement pressure support long-term MOB demand

How medical office differs from traditional office through lease structure, tenant improvements, plumbing, foot traffic, and tenant stickiness

Why MOB supply is typically more controlled than multifamily or traditional office supply

How triple-net leases help owners pass through operating expenses, while still requiring competitive cost management

Why replacement cost matters and how buying existing buildings below new construction cost can create downside protection

What LPs should watch in MOB deals, including going-in cap rate, cost of financing, positive leverage, stabilized yield on cost, and exit cap assumptions

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August Biniaz of CPI Capital joins Chris to unpack why his firm is bringing Canadian capital into U.S. real estate and why he believes the U.S. remains one of the most attractive rental markets in the world. August walks through his path from fix-and-flips and ground-up construction to launching CPI Capital, a firm built to help Canadian investors access U.S. multifamily and build-to-rent opportunities.

Chris and August dig into the cross-border investing mechanics, including why Canadian investors look south for stronger yields, how withholding taxes and entity structures matter, and why CPI uses limited partnerships rather than LLCs for syndicated deals involving Canadian capital. August also explains how CPI recently created a vehicle that allows Canadian investors to use retirement accounts for U.S. real estate investments.

The conversation then shifts to the current multifamily cycle. August shares why he believes Sunbelt multifamily is near the bottom of the cycle, why distress and repricing may create attractive entry points, and how CPI is evaluating a Dallas-area deal that has corrected significantly from its 2022 basis. Chris pushes on downside risk, debt maturity, interest rates, and macro uncertainty, while August explains why he believes conviction, basis, and business plan discipline matter most in this phase of the cycle.

They also discuss CPI’s build-to-rent strategy, including duplex communities in San Antonio, a build-to-hold project in Denton, and why August views BTR as “horizontal multifamily” serving a growing renter-by-choice demographic.

Key takeaways:

Why CPI Capital was created to help Canadian investors access U.S. real estate

How U.S. multifamily yields compare to similar Canadian markets

Why cross-border tax structure, withholding, and entity choice matter

How Canadian retirement accounts can be directed into certain real estate vehicles

Why August believes Sunbelt multifamily is near the bottom of the cycle

How CPI is underwriting distressed or repriced multifamily opportunities today

Why CPI is focused on Texas and Florida, especially DFW, San Antonio, and Tampa

How build-to-rent fits CPI’s thesis and serves renters by choice

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This Episode

Matthew Sinclair returns to PassivePockets to break down the build-to-rent market, the state of single-family institutional investing, and why he believes BTR is still in the early innings compared to traditional multifamily. Drawing on his background in real estate investment banking and private equity, Matthew explains why home affordability, demographic shifts, and renter preferences are creating long-term demand for professionally managed single-family rentals.

Chris and Matthew dig into how BTR compares to scattered-site single-family rentals, why large institutions are increasingly recycling capital out of older homes and into newer construction, and how interest rates are reshaping the economics of the space. Matthew also explains how his firm is approaching the market today: buying newer homes from builders at favorable basis, prioritizing cash flow over aggressive appreciation assumptions, and focusing on operational efficiency in markets where cap rates can support distributions.

The conversation also covers the recent housing legislation impacting institutional single-family ownership, why contiguous BTR communities may have a clearer path forward than scattered-site portfolios, and how uncertainty around regulation, interest rates, and exit markets should affect underwriting. For LPs evaluating residential real estate today, this episode is a practical look at how to think about basis, margins, tenant demand, builder incentives, and risk management in a higher-rate environment.

Key takeaways:

Why Matthew believes build-to-rent is still 20–30 years behind multifamily in institutional adoption

How affordability pressures are extending the renter lifecycle and supporting demand for single-family rentals

Why many institutions are selling older scattered-site homes and focusing more on new construction BTR

How higher interest rates create challenges for valuations but opportunities for basis-driven buyers

Why Matthew prioritizes cash flow, operating margin, and tenant retention over aggressive appreciation assumptions

How new housing legislation may affect institutional single-family ownership and the future of contiguous BTR communities

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This Episode

In this special LP Deal Review episode, Chris Lopez is joined by Adam Cranmer and Pascal Wagner to evaluate DLP Capital’s Preferred Credit Fund with Don Wenner, founder and CEO of DLP Capital. Don walks through the fund’s strategy, target return profile, underwriting process, borrower standards, and how DLP approaches development, construction, bridge, mezzanine, and preferred equity lending in today’s market.

The discussion digs into why DLP focuses on housing that is affordable for working families, how the firm thinks about lending in high-growth Sunbelt markets, and what separates its Preferred Credit Fund from a senior secured lending fund. Don also addresses several of the key diligence questions LPs should be asking right now, including geographic concentration risk in Florida and Texas, loan-to-value and loan-to-cost metrics, borrower concentration, third-party validation, fund administration, internal controls, and how rising interest rates could affect the fund’s risk profile.

After Don leaves the conversation, Chris, Adam, and Pascal break down the fund from an LP perspective. They discuss what they like about DLP’s track record, reporting, borrower quality, and institutional infrastructure, while also highlighting the risks they are watching closely, including mezzanine exposure, state concentration, self-dealing concerns, fees, macro uncertainty, and whether the return spread is attractive enough compared to risk-free alternatives. The episode closes with a broader conversation about how LPs should think about risk, liquidity, debt versus equity, and portfolio construction in an uncertain investing environment.

Key takeaways:

How DLP’s Preferred Credit Fund targets monthly income through private real estate credit

Why DLP focuses on housing affordability, experienced borrowers, and Sunbelt growth markets

How Don compares mezzanine and preferred equity risk to senior secured lending fund risk

What LPs should ask about loan-to-value, loan-to-cost, borrower concentration, and fund-level controls

Why third-party audits, appraisals, loan tapes, and investor reporting matter in debt fund diligence

How experienced LPs think about DLP’s strengths, yellow flags, fees, concentration risk, and macro exposure

Why each investor needs a clear portfolio thesis before choosing between cash, Treasuries, debt funds, or equity deals

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