The Power of Three: 24 Years of Male-Female Friendship
What happens when a college "greet line" handshake turns into a 24-year friendship? Sarah welcomes her longtime friends Mike and Smith to explore how their trio has survived decades of different life phases, cross-country moves, and major life changes, from their freshman year at Transylvania University through careers, marriages, and parenthood—all anchored by a book club that became their lifeline. Why are platonic male-female friendships so rare in American culture? They examine the social dynamics that make cross-gender friendships uncommon, how romantic assumptions complicate these relationships, and what it takes for friendships to survive when partners enter the picture, exploring whether having sisters, shared interests, or just good "riffing" chemistry makes the difference. Is America heading toward a "soft secession" by blue and red states? They flip the script on our usual Outside of Politics segment and tackle the current political moment, debating whether fertile ground exists for a viable third party, why Trump's cultural omnipresence makes him irreplaceable, and whether the country's "bimodal" split on everything from news consumption to local governance signals a fundamental breaking point in American democracy. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Climate Change(s)
Sarah and Beth tackle the complicated state of climate discourse in America. While extreme weather events become increasingly common and climate change shows up in our daily lives—from electricity bills to insurance rates—the national conversation remains frustratingly frozen in partisan gridlock. They explore why climate change has become such a divisive political issue despite its visible effects, discuss the tension between climate catastrophism and practical solutions, and examine what effective climate messaging might look like going forward. From the “mile wide, inch deep” nature of public support to the challenges facing both progressive and conservative climate advocates, this conversation captures the full complexity of where we are—and where we might need to go. Finally, Sarah introduces Beth (and us) to junk journaling, a creative practice of transforming everyday ephemera into meaningful keepsakes. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more.Don't miss our limited-edition holiday sale!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ceasefire in Gaza, Standoff in Washington
Will there finally be peace in Gaza? Sarah and Beth discuss President Trump's efforts to coordinate a peace deal between Israel and Gaza. They reflect on what it must mean to families on both sides of the conflict to see a potential end to this war in sight. Why isn't Congress back in session to end this shutdown and what does it have to do with Epstein?. Sarah and Beth talk to Rep. Ro Khanna about the government shutdown and his efforts to get the Epstein files released. Rep. Khanna also shares why the two are intertwined. How much cleaning is too much cleaning? Outside of politics, we're talking about cleaning content and what level of cleaning goes past reasonable standards of cleanliness. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more.Don't miss our limited-edition holiday sale!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Shutdown Benefits Republicans (For Now)
Government shutdown drags on with no end in sight. Sarah and Beth explore why Republicans lack motivation to resolve it—from giving Russell Vought a runway to shut down agencies, to avoiding responsibility, to the Epstein document discharge petition battle. Federal troops and ICE operations escalate in American cities. Sarah and Beth break down the National Guard deployments to Los Angeles, DC, Memphis, and the blocked attempt in Oregon, plus aggressive ICE raids across the country. What "war zones" actually look like versus Portland protests. Sarah and Beth push back on the administration's characterization of cities, discuss ice impersonators endangering citizens, and debate whether Gavin Newsom and JB Pritzker are handling federal overreach differently. Plus: Taylor Swift's The Life of a Showgirl album—what worked and what didn't. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more.Don't miss our limited-edition holiday sale!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Netanyahu Feels the Pressure, Democrats Hold the Line, and Pete Hegseth Wants a Fight
Can Trump's Gaza peace plan actually work? Sarah and Beth break down the 20-point proposal and why Netanyahu is finally feeling the heat. They discuss what's changed—from polling on Israel to Ukraine's drone warfare lessons—and whether this administration's transactional approach might accidentally deliver lasting peace. Why are so few panicking about the government shutdown? With funding lapsed and Congress in recess, Beth and Sarah explore the "giant shrug" response from those not directly affected and whether crying wolf has made actual shutdowns feel disminished. They debate Democratic strategy on healthcare protections, discuss the problem with shutdown threats, and propose what a genuine budget process reform could look like. What happened when Pete Hegseth called 800 generals to Quantico? Sarah and Beth dissect the defense secretary's retreat featuring Christian nationalism, complaints about "fat" people in the military, and Trump's "enemy within" rhetoric. They work through the tension of taking legitimate military critiques seriously while resisting the administration's trap of making everything a partisan thunderdome—and why the calm response from cities with National Guard deployments offers a better model. Plus: The treats roundup you need this week, from The Pitt to fall magazines to cinnamon toast blondies. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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