The GovNavigators Show

From inside the House, it’s Christian Hoehner!  
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam welcome their good friend Christian Hoehner, Policy Director for the Majority staff at the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Christian walks us through the committee’s expansive work, including their new legislation addressing the “dire problem” of fraud and improper payments. Plus, an inside look at the Prepayment Fraud Prevention and Treasury Data Access Act, and the payoff of bipartisan cooperation. 
Special thanks to our friends at Allocore for sponsoring this episode! 
Show Notes 
Allocore.com 
AP: US marks 25 years since the Sept. 11 attacks 
GovExec: What does 9/11 mean for young public servants who hardly remember it? 
PBS: Anthropic researcher's resignation sends warning about the dangers of AI development 
WSJ: Congress Is Suddenly Waking Up to the AI Doomsday Threat 
GSA: GSA Expands OneGov AI Offerings with Discounted, Consumption-Based Access to OpenAI’s ChatGPT 
Politico: Viral AI researcher’s warning ‘scary as hell,’ Cruz says 
The British Museum: The Bayeux Tapestry 
GAO: Payment Integrity 
GAO: Fraud Risk Management 
House Oversight: Chairman Comer: Congress Must Stop Fraud to Protect Taxpayers 
House Oversight: House Passes 11 Oversight Committee Bills to Stop Fraud in Federal Programs 
Congress.gov: Payment Integrity Information Act of 2019 
Congress.gov: Pre-Payment Fraud Prevention and Treasury Data Access Act 
Bureau of the Fiscal Service: Do Not Pay 
DOJ: Privacy Act 
Data Foundation: Data Foundation Endorses Pre-Payment Fraud Prevention and Treasury Data Access Act Ahead of Markup 
Data Foundation: Data Foundation Welcomes House Passage of Pre-Payment Fraud Prevention and Treasury Data Access Act 
Congress.gov: Stopping Fraudulent Payments Act 
Congress.gov: Fraud Prevention and Accountability Act 
What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 
September 14th 
Socure Fraud Briefing on Capitol Hill 
September 15th  
The Data Foundation’s govDATAx, George Washington University 
National Academy of Public Administration (NAPA) Lunch for John Bernard, America’s Pulse 
Senator Lankford and Senator Hassan’s Roundtable on Executive-Legislative Relations

Happy Labor Day!  
On this pop-up episode, Robert and Adam wish a happy holiday to all, with a special shoutout to our federal workforce. Plus, some quick updates from Congress and upcoming events to tie you over through the long weekend. 
Show Notes: 
Allocore.com 
Federal News Network: House passes short-term funding bill to avoid a shutdown before the election 
Bloomberg Government: House Cancels Two September Session Weeks Ahead of Midterms  
What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 
September 9th  
GovNavigators Policy Wonk Happy Hour, benefiting the Senior Executives Association, The Exchange, Washington D.C., 5-7 PM 
September 15th  
The Data Foundation’s govDATAx Conference, George Washington University

Christina Ho knows some people would describe audit as “painful,” so what if there was a way to make it “faster, better, and cheaper?” 
In this episode, Robert and Adam sit down with Christina Ho, former PCAOB Board Member and Chief Assurance Officer at Oath to discuss her new project using AI to improve the auditing process by testing 100% of transactions. Plus, learn about her vision for a “whole new category” of independent verification, and how the current view of audit as a compliance exercise is not producing the value it is intended to. 
Thanks to our sponsors at Allocore! 
Show Notes: 
Allocore.com 
Variety: Dolly Parton, Queen of Country Music, Dies at 80 
The Washington Post: Red Tape Newsletter Piece 
Treasury: Treasury Announces the Quantum-Readiness Task Force 
DOJ: Department of Justice Announces Launch of National Fraud Detection Center to Combat Fraud Against Taxpayer-Funded Programs 
FedScoop: Draft OMB memo mandates agency use of Login.gov on government websites 
Federal CDO Council: DCAT-US v3.0 Schema Implementation Guide 
WSJ: Former Audit Regulator Helps Set Up Accounting Firm Targeting 80% Automation 
PCAOB: Christina Ho 
Oath Verified: oathverified.com 
HHS: HHS Cracks Down on Years of Unchecked Audit Findings 
OMB: M-25-30 
OMB: Accelerating Federal Use of AI through Innovation, Governance, and Public Trust 
OMB: Driving Efficient Acquisition of Artificial Intelligence in Government  
What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar? 
August 31st  
The House is back in session 
September 9th  
GovNavigators and Senior Executives Association Policy Wonk Happy Hour, The Exchange, Washington D.C., 5-7 PM 
September 14th  
The Senate is back in session 
September 15th  
The Data Foundation’s govDATAx, George Washington University

Congress passed a major bipartisan housing bill, and Robert has three daughters renting apartments, so this one is personal. This week, Robert and Adam are joined by Nicole Upano, AVP of Housing Policy and Regulatory Affairs, and George Ratiu, VP of Research, both at the National Apartment Association, to unpack what the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act does for Americans everywhere, and what comes next. From single-stairway buildings and inspection parity to opportunity zone updates, manufactured housing reform, and the role of private capital, they walk through a once-in-a-generation piece of legislation, and what implementation looks like across Treasury, HUD, FHFA, USDA, and beyond. They also flag what didn't make it in, and why the real work is just beginning.
Thank you to Allocore for sponsoring this episode.
Show Notes:
NAA: Road to Housing Live Resources Page
Congress: 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act (H.R. 6644)
Senate Banking Committee: Myth vs. Fact: ROAD to Housing Act
White House: Statement of Administration Policy — H.R. 6644
Treasury: Debt to the Penny
Politico: AI Slop Is Flooding Congress's Legislative Drafting Office
Events on the GovNavigators' Radar:
August 26-27th: AFCEA INSA National Security Summit — Bethesda, MD
August 27th: Merit Talks: Generative AI and the New Federal Workflow
September 15th: Data Foundation GovDataX: George Washington University

Special thanks to Allocore for supporting this episode. 
Ensuring politicians remain accountable to those who vote for them is no easy feat, but our guest this episode may have the solution. On this episode of the GovNavigators Show, Robert and Adam try not to have too much fun talking with John Bernard, Founder, President, and CEO of America’s Pulse, as he takes us through his project to measure state performance and connect citizens’ priorities directly to their elected officials. Plus, learn how America’s Pulse is building a direct-input democracy that extends beyond elections, and how you can use it to make your voice heard. 
Show Notes 
Allocore.com 
Washington Post: Divers recover a bottle of Guinness from a 162-year-old shipwreck 
OMB: TikTok Memo M-26-17 
White House: Expanding Capabilities to Combat Transnational Cyber-Enabled Crime 
Nextgov/FCW: Palantir calls on GSA to withdraw draft AI acquisition rule 
Washington Technology: Palantir’s no-bid pipeline just got bigger 
Treasury: FinCEN Permanently Ends Beneficial Ownership Reporting Requirements for Millions of Small Business Owners 
Amazon: Government That Works: The Results Revolution in the States 
Amazon: Business at the Speed of Now  
America’s Pulse: Americaspulse.org 
Harvard University: The 3.5% rule 
What’s on the GovNavigators’ radar?  
August 20th  
AWS and Carahsoft Missions Made Possible: A FedTech Innovation Summit, Arlington, VA 
August 24th  
A Hole in One with ACT-IAC, Leesburg, VA 
August 26th-27th  
AFCEA and INSA’s 2026 Intelligence and National Security Summit, Bethesda, MD 
August 27th  
The MeriTalk Mission Room on Agentic AI and the New Federal Workflow, Washington, D.C. 
August 27th  
Potomac Officers Club 2026 Navy Summit, Falls Church, VA