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Flower in the River: A Family Tale Finally Told

Natalie Zett
Flower in the River: A Family Tale Finally Told
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  • The River Remained in Her Bones: A Recovered Eastland Story
    Send us a textThe River Remained in Her Bones: A Recovered Eastland Story A single line in a 1922 obituary can change the shape of history. We follow that thread to Chrissie McNeal Lauritzen, who survived the SS Eastland capsizing by clinging to the overturned hull, “was never well since,” and died seven years later from complications tied directly to that morning on the Chicago River. This isn’t just a moving story; it’s documented evidence that challenges the fixed perception of the Eastland death toll and reveals how disasters reverberate through families, records, and time.We explore the documentation: a death notice from a Rockford newspaper, filled with names and places, reflecting the family connections that supported those words on the page. We also examine the genealogical methods that transform a single paragraph into a comprehensive family network. Along the way, we meet Chrissie’s husband, Charles, through a 1917 passport application that holds a rare photo and a remarkable corporate letter from International Harvester. Those pages pull us inside wartime bureaucracy, frequent overseas travel, and how companies vouched for employees navigating citizenship questions and tightened State Department scrutiny during World War I. The documents don’t just fill gaps; they give texture to a home life shaped by illness, work abroad, and a daughter growing up in the long wake of 1915.The takeaway is clear and urgent: numbers that become legend need revisiting, and primary sources—obituaries, passport files, small-town columns—can restore lives to public memory. We show how to read these records, why women’s names and maiden names are crucial for genealogical accuracy, and what it means to honor those whose suffering extended beyond the day of the disaster.  Learn how a forgotten death notice rewrites the Eastland narrative and what it takes to update the historical record with care, clarity--and evidence.Resource:“Mrs. Chrissie Lauritzen Dies of Complications.” Rockford Morning Star (Rockford, IL), April 8, 1922. Book website: https://www.flowerintheriver.com/ LinkTree: @zettnatalie | Linktree LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-z-87092b15/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zettnatalie/ YouTube: Flower in the River - A Family Tale Finally Told - YouTube Medium: Natalie Zett – Medium The opening/closing song is Twilight by 8opus Other music. Artlist
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  • A Hero at the Porthole: The Rabe Family’s Story
    Send us a textA forgotten headline. A crowded dock. A father who turns back to a capsized  ship and pulls a family friend through a porthole. In this episode, we follow the Rabe family—Fred, Delia, Grace, and Kenneth—from a terrifying morning on the Chicago River into the decades that followed, when work, service, and community stitched their lives into something livable again. We open the archive, and listen as Grace and Kenneth share their memories of that day, 84 years later.Grace becomes a skilled comptometer operator at Western Electric, part of a large, highly trained cohort of women whose precision work kept the company running long before electronics took over. Kenneth rises through the company and never boards a pleasure boat without remembering the river. Fred advances to department manager, yet even after a 1999 article documented his rescue of family friend Anna Johnson, the act was never acknowledged. It’s another example of how an Eastland story can surface clearly in the record yet fade again, even when it should have been carried forward. Their obituaries turn out to be maps—Telephone Pioneers chapters, Eastern Star ties, addresses that trace moves across neighborhoods and seasons of service. Those details show how survivors rebuilt meaning through hands-on volunteer work, fraternal lodges, and a workplace culture that blended pride with mutual aid.Resources: Northlake Herald-Journal (IL), December 1, 1999 — “Eastland Disaster All But Forgotten,” by Jennifer Giustino. Book website: https://www.flowerintheriver.com/ LinkTree: @zettnatalie | Linktree LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-z-87092b15/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zettnatalie/ YouTube: Flower in the River - A Family Tale Finally Told - YouTube Medium: Natalie Zett – Medium The opening/closing song is Twilight by 8opus Other music. Artlist
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  • Fissures in the Archive: Behind the Curtain of the Eastland Disaster
    Send us a textSome histories don’t fracture because records vanished; they fracture because we stopped asking questions. In this episode, we look at the Eastland Disaster through a different lens — not just what happened in 1915, but how its story has been curated, simplified, and sometimes commercialized, and how we can repair and restore it with evidence.I share what two years of deep research (and new academic work) revealed: there’s no agreed standard for who qualifies as an Eastland victim, and no peer-reviewed, source-cited list — even though a mid-1990s tally has often been treated as final.We walk through four patterns shaping public understanding: “empty frames” where names exist without biographies; vanishing attribution that severs data from sources; forgotten lives hiding in plain sight across court files, newspapers, and community databases; and the numbers game that turned a best-guess death toll into marketing copy. Along the way, we spotlight crowdsourced heroes—Find a Grave volunteers, family historians, and independent sleuths—bloggers and podcasters—whose careful work often surpasses certain institutional sites, precisely because they cite, correct, and keep looking.This is also a story about ethics and memory. We talk about why provenance matters, how to handle uncertain data without erasing it, and what it means to protect human stories from becoming slogans. From locating omitted individuals like Thomas Marren (excluded from the initial tally of victims) to resurfacing accounts tied to future Admiral Hyman Rickover, the method is consistent: follow the evidence, show your work, and leave a trail others can test. I also share progress on restoring the defunct Eastland Memorial Society website from the Wayback Machine, turning a lost archive into a living resource for researchers, descendants, and the simply curious. If you care about accurate history, communal stewardship, and honoring the people behind the numbers, this conversation offers tools and a path forward. Resources:Palmer, Ada. Inventing the Renaissance: The Rise of Cultural Movements and the Myth of the Middle Ages. Princeton University Press, 2023.  Although focused on the Renaissance, Palmer’s exploration of how later generations reinterpret and reshape earlier eras offers a striking parallel to the historiography of the Eastland Disaster. Book website: https://www.flowerintheriver.com/ LinkTree: @zettnatalie | Linktree LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-z-87092b15/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zettnatalie/ YouTube: Flower in the River - A Family Tale Finally Told - YouTube Medium: Natalie Zett – Medium The opening/closing song is Twilight by 8opus Other music. Artlist
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  • Capsized. Kicked. Survived.
    Send us a textA photographer’s byline led me straight into another long-overlooked Eastland story — the 1965 Chicago Tribune interview with survivor Anna Meinert, one of the many accounts from this event that were well documented but seldom researched and carried forward.Anna’s memories bring the morning of July 24, 1915 into sharp, human focus.Fifty years later she could still see it all: water seeping from portholes, the sudden lurch, the scrap of canvas above a window, a stranger’s boot kicking her away, and the two other strangers whose hands pulled her to safety. Her friends never made it off the ship. That contrast — a precise memory set against an incomprehensible toll — reframes the Eastland Disaster that claimed more than 800 lives.From there, we widen the lens. Anna’s account intersects with the larger story: ballast decisions, the court ruling that declared the Eastland “seaworthy,” and the ship’s second life as a Navy training vessel on the Great Lakes before being scrapped after World War II. Then the trail moves into the realm of records. Through baptismal entries, census pages, and obituary lines, we confirm that she was born Alma Augusta Johanna Meinert to Prussian immigrants, married a Grimmer, raised a daughter, and later settled in Baton Rouge. Her obituary makes no mention of the disaster — a reminder of how easily family memory can disconnect from the events that shaped it.And this entire journey is only possible because of the Eastland Memorial Society, whose meticulous early work created a template for how history should be preserved: clearly, respectfully, and without turning real lives into marketing material. Though the organization is gone, its archived website on the Wayback Machine continues to guide research like this — proof that good historical work keeps paying forward.That’s the lesson in Anna’s story: when we connect photographs, survivor interviews, and genealogy, we return people to history and history to families.Take a moment to get to know Anna Meinert Grimmer. She’s been waiting a long time.Resources:Fitzpatrick, Thomas. “Horror of Eastland Haunts Memory of Survivor.” Chicago Tribune, July 11, 1965.Lane, Russell. “812 Died Half Century Ago: Suddenly the Boat Lurched.” Jacksonville Courier (Jacksonville, Illinois), July 23, 1965. Book website: https://www.flowerintheriver.com/ LinkTree: @zettnatalie | Linktree LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-z-87092b15/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zettnatalie/ YouTube: Flower in the River - A Family Tale Finally Told - YouTube Medium: Natalie Zett – Medium The opening/closing song is Twilight by 8opus Other music. Artlist
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  • The Rosetta Stone of the Eastland Disaster
    Send us a textTracing the Eastland story back to the people who first preserved it online.This week, I’m pulling back the curtain on how, in the late 1990s, the Eastland Disaster story was rediscovered, shaped, reshaped, and carried onto the early Internet (courtesy of the Eastland Memorial Society). But when that original website vanished, some of its content — including family-written stories and volunteer research — resurfaced in later retellings without the names of the people who first contributed them.In other words, the attribution was MIA.And I’ll share how the record can be rebuilt using clear sources, solid attribution, and a commitment to course-correction whenever new evidence turns up — those moments where the archive gently reminds you, “There’s more to the story.”The guideposts are stubbornly simple:Cite your sourcesCredit those who did the workWelcome contradiction.Keep the file open for new research — even if it means letting go of a cherished assumption (or two!).In this episode, I spotlight the Eastland Memorial Society — the under-credited early web project that built timelines, tracked permissions, preserved photographs, saved media coverage, and offered essential context back when the internet was barely out of diapers. Thanks to the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine, those pages now act as a genuine research Rosetta Stone.Resources:The Eastland Disaster (1999). Documentary featuring members of the Eastland Memorial Society and historian George Hilton. Digitized by the Internet Archive.Eastland Memorial Society, “News,” archived Oct. 20, 2000, via the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.Hilton, George Woodman. Eastland: Legacy of the Titanic. Stanford, CA: Stanford University Press, 1995. Book website: https://www.flowerintheriver.com/ LinkTree: @zettnatalie | Linktree LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-z-87092b15/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zettnatalie/ YouTube: Flower in the River - A Family Tale Finally Told - YouTube Medium: Natalie Zett – Medium The opening/closing song is Twilight by 8opus Other music. Artlist
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About Flower in the River: A Family Tale Finally Told

"Flower in the River" podcast, inspired by my book of the same name, explores the 1915 Eastland Disaster in Chicago and its enduring impact, particularly on my family's history. We'll explore the intertwining narratives of others impacted by this tragedy as well, and we'll dive into writing and genealogy and uncover the surprising supernatural elements that surface in family history research. Come along with me on this journey of discovery.
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