The Joe Pags Show

Pags dives into the stunning fallout from the Lindsay Clancy mistrial—and somehow the story keeps getting more unbelievable. After an 11–1 jury split favoring a not-guilty-by-reason-of-insanity verdict, Clancy's attorney is now publicly asking President Trump to consider a pardon, despite the case involving Massachusetts state charges outside presidential pardon power. Pags wants prosecutors to seek a retrial and reacts to jurors revealing just how close Clancy came to being acquitted of murder, with one holdout refusing to join the other 11. Then another horrifying case enters the conversation: an Illinois mother accused of killing her young son had reportedly shown an interest in the Clancy case. Pags takes calls and sounds off on the disturbing stories and theories people will believe before turning to the tragedy in Miami, where authorities have identified five victims killed in the Amazon cargo plane crash.
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Pags starts with the Republican midterm convention in Dallas and argues it shouldn't simply turn into another Trump rally as Republicans try to make their case to voters. Ken Paxton is campaigning in Texas with major outside support, while President Trump is once again trolling the internet—this time posting a map showing Canada, Mexico, Greenland and more covered in the American flag. Pags asks the bigger question: Do posts like this actually persuade anyone to vote Republican in November, or are they just memes for people who already support him? Then Attorney General Todd Blanche honors Rudy Giuliani before Pags turns to a much more serious moment: the approaching one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's death. The Dallas convention itself is planning a remembrance of Kirk, whose assassination left a major void in conservative youth politics. Kay Hill joins Pags for Part 1 to examine where the Republican Party stands today, Kirk's lasting impact on younger voters, whether anyone has stepped up to fill the messaging void he left behind, and what Republicans need to communicate as they head into the midterms.
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Pags and the crew tackle a huge question for the conservative movement: Who steps up next? Is Vice President JD Vance the future of the Republican Party, could Marco Rubio eventually make a run for the White House, and has Rubio shown a side of himself that even Pags didn't know was there? With Vance already drawing significant 2028 attention, Pags uses a baseball analogy to ask who the conservative movement's next "cleanup hitter" really is. Then, with the 25th anniversary of 9/11 approaching, Pags reflects on just how dramatically America—and New York City politics—have changed since that seemingly normal week before the attacks. Kay Hill returns for Part 2 as the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's assassination approaches. Kirk's influence on young conservatives remains significant, while Turning Point USA continues trying to carry his political and organizational legacy forward. Can anyone fill the void he left? And with Republicans gathering in Dallas for an unusual midterm convention this week, Pags and Hill dig into the GOP's messaging challenge and the future voices competing to shape the party.
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The verdict is in—or rather, there isn't one. The Lindsay Clancy trial ends in a mistrial after an 11–1 deadlock, and Joe Pags has serious questions about how it got here. Why wasn't this jury sequestered? Why did the defense reportedly try to remove the lone holdout juror? And is it normal to try to remove a juror simply because they won't agree with everyone else? The phones light up before former Bexar County DA and current defense attorney Nico LaHood joins Pags for Part 1 of an incredible legal breakdown. What could the prosecution or defense have done differently? Who actually requests jury sequestration? What instructions does a judge give jurors, and could the judge individually question them about whether they're following the law? Most importantly, how did 11 jurors end up on one side with just one refusing to move? LaHood takes Pags inside the courtroom strategy and explains what happens next after a case that has left listeners furious.
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Pags starts with some lighter stories, including a so-called "prophet of doom" getting credit for predicting the death of a 96-year-old—and Pags has a little fun with just how impressive that prediction really was. Then things get serious as Enes Kanter Freedom files a federal lawsuit over his removal from a WNBA game. Pags breaks down the case and explains why he thinks Enes Freedom is ultimately going to lose, drawing a comparison to the bodycam videos he's been covering and the way a simple traffic stop—like getting pulled over for not using a blinker—can quickly turn into a much bigger confrontation. Then Evita Duffy joins Pags for a fun change of pace, talking about the Great American Road Trip, life on the road and her perspective as one of the country's outspoken young conservative voices.
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