The Joe Pags Show

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New evidence is changing the picture of what happened before an ICE officer shot a Venezuelan DoorDash driver in Austin. Video reviewed by Austin police shows Wilber Garces Perez initially pulled over and speaking with ICE agents before a brief vehicle pursuit ended near the location of the shooting—details that complicate the earliest accounts of the encounter. Pags takes on a local news anchor and makes the case for why where you get your news matters more than ever: feelings don't belong in straight reporting, facts do. The callers weigh in before former Border Patrol Commander-at-Large Greg Bovino joins for Part 1 of a must-hear conversation. What is it actually like for federal agents to apprehend someone with a final order of removal? What does the new video tell us? What about the body-camera controversy—and what are agents trained to do when someone allegedly drives away during an enforcement encounter? Bovino brings an angle to the Austin case you may not have heard anywhere else.
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The Austin ICE shooting remains front and center as Border Czar Tom Homan weighs in on the case and the coverage surrounding it. Then another immigration story breaks: CBP Commissioner Rodney Scott has ended the agency’s participation in a Biden-era policy that allowed officials to solicit and accept private gifts for migrants in federal custody. Karoline Leavitt takes on what the White House calls “fake news,” setting up a bigger conversation about anonymous sources, questionable sourcing and how a shaky premise can completely shape a headline. The phones open before the fight over CNN, MS NOW and Politico being barred from the White House gets another look. Then former Border Patrol Commander-at-Large Greg Bovino returns for Part 2. What does the evidence really show in Austin? Did the driver speed away? What should agents do when attempting to arrest someone with a final order of removal? What does the bodycam tell us? Bovino also tackles the bigger immigration question—are we actually seeing “mass deportations”?—before answering something completely unexpected: Will he ever run for president?
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