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In this deeply moving continuation, Gary Zukav and Scarlett Lewis - founder of the Choose Love Movement - explore the interior landscape of Authentic Power: what it truly means to choose love not just as a feeling, but as a conscious act of will in the face of grief, fear, and loss. Together, they trace the path from forgiveness to compassion, and from compassion to personal transformation.

At the center of their exchange is a truth both hard-won and universal: that the frightened parts of our personalities - anger, judgment, resentment, and righteousness - are not enemies to defeat but opportunities for deeper awareness. Scarlett shares how forgiving the individual responsible for the death of her son, Jesse, was not an act of denial, but of liberation- and how that conscious choice led her to feel genuine compassion, and ultimately, love.

Gary illuminates what makes this possible: a new level of consciousness allows us to see that we are not our frightened parts. We can observe them, choose not to be controlled by them, and act from our loving parts - even while fear is still present. That is the exact moment Authentic Power is created.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


(03:57) — Gary reflects on why he invited Scarlett back: her response to Jesse’s transition demonstrates what it looks like to face the frightened parts of the personality and choose love over judgment.


(14:36) — Scarlett shares the internal process of forgiveness—releasing the charge of an event to move from the pain of the personality into the compassion and love of the Soul.


(19:55) — Gary and Scarlett explore the paradox of Authentic Power: the tools of Emotional Awareness and Responsible Choice are simple, but applying them while fear is active is the most demanding work in the Earth School.


(22:12) — Gary describes the exact moment Authentic Power is created: when you choose to act from a loving part of your personality while simultaneously experiencing the sensations of a frightened part.


(31:55) — Scarlett reflects on approaching painful experiences as a Soul curriculum—turning toward difficulty with curiosity so that it refines, rather than defines, your life.


(38:17) — Scarlett invites listeners to visit ChooseLoveMovement.org to access tools for the next generation, helping children learn the skills of Authentic Power so they meet the world with love instead of fear.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

Think of a moment when you felt the pull of a frightened part of your personality - anger, resentment, or the urge to be against something rather than for something. Now ask yourself: what was the loving intention beneath it that you couldn't yet access? The next time a frightened part becomes active, pause before you act or speak. Ask: what would it look like to respond from the part of me that loves? You don't have to feel love first. You only have to choose it.

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A new multisensory consciousness is transforming humanity, and with it comes a pressing question: what kind of power are you really reaching for? In this episode, Gary Zukav explores the internal dynamics of power struggles - what they are, where they originate, and why the impulse to control others is as present in our most intimate relationships as it is in conflicts between nations.

Every power struggle, Gary explains, is rooted in the pursuit of external power - the drive to change, manage, or dominate what exists outside of us. Whether we are clashing with a partner or a roommate, or reaching for a fresh start in a new city, the horizontal path keeps us moving sideways. In the Earth School, we often find that nothing truly changes because we haven't changed the frightened parts of our personality that are driving the conflict.

The vertical path is different. It is the path of spiritual evolution. It invites us to turn inward - to practice Emotional Awareness - and in doing so, to begin aligning our personality with our Soul. This alignment allows us to access the kind of Authentic Power that Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. brought to bear on the world - a power rooted in love, not in the control of others.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


(00:43) — The Internal Dynamics of a Power Struggle: Gary defines the core of every power struggle - the pursuit of external power through the impulse to control - and reveals how it operates at every scale, from intimate partnerships to international conflict.


(01:26) — The Horizontal Path and its Limitations: Attempting to find relief by changing partners, circumstances, or cities defines the horizontal path. Without internal change, the same frightened parts of the personality follow us wherever we go in the Earth School.


(01:56) — The Vertical Path: Gary introduces the only path that creates real transformation - the vertical path of spiritual evolution - and connects it to the emergence of Authentic Power.


(02:14) — The Fragility of External Power: For millennia, our species has sought safety through external power - competition, hoarding, and exploitation. Gary explains why this foundation now threatens our survival and the evolution of our consciousness.


(02:54) — The Soul’s Intentions: Harmony, cooperation, sharing, and a reverence for Life are the Soul’s true intentions. Gary describes the creative tension humanity now inhabits as these values begin to emerge from the new consciousness.


(03:27) — Authentic Power in Action: As we align our personality with our Soul, we begin to cultivate the kind of power that moves mountains - the Authentic Power of Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr., anchored in a life lived from the frequency of love.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

This week, notice where power struggles show up in your life - in a disagreement with a partner, a moment of frustration with a colleague, or an urge to change something outside yourself to feel better inside. Pause before choosing the horizontal path. Ask yourself: Am I trying to control, or am I trying to grow? What would it look like to change myself here instead of the situation around me? Each time you choose the vertical path, you take one more step toward Authentic Power.

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In this profound co-creation, Gary Zukav welcomes his first-ever Deepcast guest: Scarlett Lewis, founder of the Choose Love Movement - a global nonprofit now reaching nearly 18,000 schools across 132 countries.

Scarlett shares the internal dynamics behind the movement, born from the experience of her six-year-old son Jesse’s return home on December 14th, 2012. Rather than surrender to the frightened parts of her personality that sought grief or revenge, she found her purpose in three words Jesse had written on the family's kitchen chalkboard shortly before his transition: Nurturing, Healing, Love.

At the heart of Choose Love is a simple but profound truth: hurt people hurt people. Scarlett recognized through direct experience that if the shooter had been able to give and receive nurturing, healing love, the tragedy would never have occurred. That awareness did not produce blame - it produced a mission of the heart.

Gary reflects on Scarlett's journey through the lens of the New Consciousness: what the personality calls a tragedy, the Soul recognizes as an opportunity for evolution - one that has already changed millions of lives and made clear that love is not a feeling to wait for, but a Responsible Choice available in every moment.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


(02:06) — The Choose Love Movement: Scarlett introduces the intentional vessel of her global nonprofit and the experience that gave birth to it. She shares how Jesse’s final chalkboard message - Nurturing, Healing, Love - became her life’s mission and the foundation for creating Authentic Power in the next generation.


(07:55) — Refined, Not Defined: Scarlett describes her Responsible Choice following the Sandy Hook transition: the decision to not be defined by the frightened parts of the personality or grief. She chose joy and modeled for her surviving son what it means to be for love rather than against fear.


(11:06) — A Miracle, Not a Tragedy: Gary reframes the events through the lens of multisensory perception. What the five-sensory personality labels a tragedy, the Soul recognizes as a miracle of awakening - one that has seeded a global movement and revealed the reality that love is an available choice in every Choice Moment™.


(19:15) — Global Dissemination: From a farmhouse in Sandy Hook to nearly 18,000 schools, Scarlett discusses the Soul’s intention for this work. The movement’s reach culminated in "Choose Love" appearing in NFL end zones and on helmets at the Super Bowl - a beautiful sign of our collective awakening.


(25:22) — The Gift of Attention: Scarlett shares the experience of sitting with school shooters and asking the question the intellect often avoids: What needs were not met? Their answer - that they didn't feel seen - leads Gary and Scarlett to explore the Reverence required to see the holiness in every Soul we encounter.


(29:50) — There Is No "Out There": Understanding the multisensory reality that there is no separation between the inner and outer worlds. Every choice to move from fear to love ripples across the collective. As Scarlett notes, the change we seek in the Earth School must first be anchored within our own hearts.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

Think of someone you recently pulled back from - a stranger, a colleague, someone in the news. What story did your mind tell about them? Now consider: what if that person simply didn't feel seen? The next time you feel yourself contracting, pause and ask: Can I look for the light in this person right now? You don't have to understand them or agree with them. Just choose - for one moment - to see them.

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A new multisensory consciousness is transforming humanity, and with it comes an invitation to look honestly at the parts of ourselves we have long avoided - or justified. In this episode, Gary Zukav and Linda Francis explore jealousy: what it feels like in the body, how it shapes our behavior, and what it truly means to choose love when a frightened part of the personality is active.

Linda Francis opens with a candid admission - she was a deeply jealous person for most of her life, and for a long time, she didn't fully recognize it. When she did, her first instinct was to believe she had a right to feel that way - that the circumstances justified her reaction. But through her Spiritual Partnership with Gary, Linda came to understand a fundamental truth: changing the people and situations around her would never change the internal dynamics generating her pain.

The shift occurred when Linda stopped "acting out" her jealousy - pushing away, judging, or separating - and made the Responsible Choice to feel the sensation instead. By naming the fear to Gary and staying present with the physical sensations in her energy processing centers, she empowered her loving parts. Over time, that frightened part of her personality lost its grip, allowing for a deeper alignment with her Soul.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


(00:43) — Linda on living with unrecognized jealousy: Linda shares how deeply jealousy ran through her life - and how long she believed the circumstances around her were responsible for it.


(01:41) — The moment the work began: Once Linda could no longer look outside herself for answers, she turned inward - naming the feelings in her body and telling Gary the truth of what she was experiencing.


(02:40) — What she did instead of acting out: Rather than separating from Gary or blaming him, Linda chose to feel the jealousy fully - noticing thoughts and body sensations - without letting them direct her actions.


(03:35) — How repetition created real change: By returning to this practice each time jealousy arose, Linda gradually gained power over that part of her personality, until what was once constant now appears only rarely.


(04:00) — The only thing that actually worked: Changing herself - not the people or circumstances around her - was the only thing that helped her to choose to act from a loving part of her personality, and the same applies to every frightened part of the personality rooted in fear.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

This week, when jealousy arises  -whether it shows up as a tightness in the chest, a sudden urge to pull away, or a thought that someone else is more than you - pause before acting on it. Ask yourself: Where do I feel this in my body? What story is it telling me? And what would it look like to feel this fully without letting it decide what I do next? Each time you choose to feel rather than react, you take one more step toward Authentic Power.

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In this episode, Gary Zukav gets to the heart of one of the most transformative distinctions in spiritual evolution: the difference between living as a victim and living as a creator. Drawing on the framework of Authentic Power - and the deeply personal experience of returning home from the hospital following Linda Francis’s Soul transition - Gary walks listeners through what it actually feels like in the body and mind to be driven by fear, and what becomes possible the moment you make the Responsible Choice to choose love instead.

Gary introduces Emotional Awareness as the practical tool for recognizing which part of your personality is "at the wheel." Fear shows up as physical pain in your energy processing centers - aching, contracting, churning - paired with critical, judgmental thoughts. It reaches outward, trying to extract from the world what it believes it cannot find within. Gary is clear: this pursuit of external power is the anatomy of victimhood. Whether it is romantic attraction, addiction, or the need for admiration, all trace back to the same root: the pain of powerlessness and the belief that the center of your meaning lives outside of you.

The path out is not found through willpower or the intellect - it is found through intimacy with your own frightened parts and the courageous choice, made moment by moment, to let love move you instead.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


(00:02) — The Choice That Defines Everything: Gary opens with the central tension every Soul faces: a new consciousness is being born and the old world is disintegrating. The question is not whether change is coming - it is which world you will make the Responsible Choice to live in.


(01:22) — Emotional Awareness: Your Body Doesn’t Lie: Gary breaks down the somatic practice of distinguishing love from fear - where to place your Total Attention, what physical sensations to look for in your energy centers, and why the thoughts of a frightened personality are always critical and judgmental.


(03:30) — The Pain of Powerlessness: At the root of every frightened part of the personality - anger, jealousy, resentment, addiction - is the same unbearable pain: the feeling of being intrinsically defective and fundamentally alone. Gary names it plainly and reminds listeners that everyone in the Earth School carries it.


(07:52) — Victim or Creator? The Real Definition: Gary reframes victimhood not as weakness but as a structural condition - one that includes romantic attraction, martyrdom, and every addiction. He contrasts this with the Creator who asks not what they can get through external power, but what they can give from the Soul.


(11:44) — How to Challenge Fear (Without Fighting It): Becoming intimate with fear - feeling exactly where it lives, watching what it thinks - is the heroic work. The frightened parts of your personality are not obstacles to your spiritual evolution; they are the avenues.


(20:24) — The Night Linda Didn’t Come Home: Gary shares the raw account of returning home from the hospital alone for the first time following Linda's Soul transition. He didn't follow a protocol; he simply stayed aware in a state of Ready Presence and found the next morning that something fundamental had shifted.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

Think of something you've reached for - food, a drink, your phone, someone's approval - when the discomfort got too loud to sit with. What was the feeling underneath that reaching? Where did you feel it in your body? The next time that sensation arrives, Gary invites you to place your attention in your throat, your chest, your solar plexus. Ask: what is this frightened part of me thinking? You don't have to fix it -  just stay with it long enough to remember that you are the one who gets to choose.

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