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The ChurchGear Podcast

Toby Walters [Church Tech Advocate]
The ChurchGear Podcast
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    Worship in the Round & Production for 3,000 People [Debbie Uecker-Keough]

    08/31/2026 | 52 mins.
    How do you manage the massive logistical nightmare of running production for a 3,000-seat auditorium? And more importantly, how do you pull off a center-stage "Worship in the Round" setup without completely ruining your audio and lighting?

    In this episode, we are joined by Debbie Uecker-Keough from Water of Life Church to talk about high-level church production at scale. We chat about the gear challenges and visual challenges of designing a service "in the round," and debate whether it is actually crazy to buy permanent AVL gear for those types of center-stage setups.

    In this episode you'll hear: 
    0:00 Intro: Toby’s Iron Gut
    6:25 Debbie Uecker-Keough (Water of Life Church) Joins
    8:00 Debbie’s Start in Church Production
    10:40 The Unique Challenges of a 3,000-Seat Auditorium
    13:00 The Logistics of Doing "Worship in the Round"
    17:45 Is It Crazy to Buy Permanent Gear for In-the-Round Setups?
    20:30 Training Church Tech Volunteers at Scale
    26:45 Gear Talk: Is Debbie on AVID’s Payroll?
    33:30 Navigating Church Production as a Female Leader
    35:45 Church Tech Disaster: LED Wall Dilemmas & Planning to Fail
    46:00 Keep Sundays Running

    Get expert help and care on your next integration project with our friends at HouseRight here. 
    Get up to 80% off with our Barn Burner sale! Get 20% off the rest of our inventory with code BARNBURNER26. 
    Take our survey here and you'll get the full report emailed to you December 4th! 
    Resources for your Church Tech Ministry
    Sell Us Gear: Does your church have used gear that you need to convert into new ministry dollars? We can make you an offer here. 
    Buy Our Gear: Do you need some production gear but lack the budget to buy new gear? You can shop our gear store here.

     
     Connect with us: 
    Sales Bulletin: Get better deals than the public and get them earlier too here!
    Early Service: Get our best gear before it goes live on our site here. 
    Instagram: Hangout with us on the gram here! 
    Reviews: Leaving us a review on the podcast player you're listening to us on really helps the show. If you enjoyed this episode, you can say thank you with a review!
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    Fixing Communication Breakdowns & Debriefing Without Finger-Pointing [ServiceCrew Pt3]

    08/24/2026 | 54 mins.
    What happens when a simple lack of communication leads to a complete Sunday service meltdown? And more importantly, how do you fix it before it happens again?
    In this episode, we sit down with Marc Millan, an experienced executive pastor and ministry leader, to tackle the vital role of communication between church leadership and the tech booth. We break down the early warning signs of a communication breakdown and establish exactly who should be responsible for managing the Sunday service flow.

    Link to ServiceCrew resources. 

    In this episode you'll hear: 
    0:00 Intro: Marc Millan’s Background & Ministry Journey
    4:45 When a Communication Breakdown Causes a Sunday Meltdown
    12:00 Early Warning Signs of a Tech Team Communication Failure
    20:00 Key Sunday Service Details You Must Know Ahead of Time
    22:45 Who Is Actually Responsible for the Sunday Service Flow?
    27:30 How to Debrief a Sunday Failure Without Finger-Pointing
    34:15 Is It Possible to Communicate Too Far in Advance?

    Get expert help and care on your next integration project with our friends at HouseRight here. 
    Get up to 80% off with our Barn Burner sale! Get 20% off the rest of our inventory with code BARNBURNER26. 
    Take our survey here and you'll get the full report emailed to you December 4th! 
    Resources for your Church Tech Ministry
    Sell Us Gear: Does your church have used gear that you need to convert into new ministry dollars? We can make you an offer here. 
    Buy Our Gear: Do you need some production gear but lack the budget to buy new gear? You can shop our gear store here.

     
     Connect with us: 
    Sales Bulletin: Get better deals than the public and get them earlier too here!
    Early Service: Get our best gear before it goes live on our site here. 
    Instagram: Hangout with us on the gram here! 
    Reviews: Leaving us a review on the podcast player you're listening to us on really helps the show. If you enjoyed this episode, you can say thank you with a review!
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    From Wall Street to Exec Pastor: Budgeting & Tech Lifecycles [ServiceCrew Pt.2]

    08/17/2026 | 55 mins.
    How do you actually get your Executive Pastor to say "Yes" to new church tech gear? And on the flip side, what does your leadership team wish you understood about the church's finances?
    In this highly practical episode, we are joined by Pete Rodriguez, who shares his incredible journey of leaving his career during the Wall Street financial crisis to becoming an Executive Pastor. Pete brings his high-level financial expertise into the church tech world, breaking down exactly how to weigh a "want" versus a "need" when planning your AVL budget.

    ServiceCrew Resources Link

    In this episode you'll hear: 
    0:00 Intro: Pete Rodriguez Joins the Podcast!
    1:00 From the Wall Street Financial Crisis to Executive Pastor
    8:45 Budgeting: Weighing a "Want" vs. a "Need" in Church Tech
    11:45 Knowing When Your Church Should Actually Spend Money
    17:00 How to Pitch the Tech Gear Lifecycle to Your Executive Pastor
    21:30 Is It Time for a Budget Band-Aid or a Full Upgrade?
    26:00 Strategy: How to Stagger Your Gear Replacement Costs
    37:30 The Instant "Yes" and "No" for Church Tech Purchases
    44:00 Advice Pete Would Give to His Past Self as an XP
    45:00 What Every Executive Pastor Wishes Their Tech Director Knew
    47:00 What Every Tech Director Wishes Their XP Knew

    Get expert help and care on your next integration project with our friends at HouseRight here. 
    Get up to 80% off with our Barn Burner sale! Get 20% off the rest of our inventory with code BARNBURNER26. 
    Take our survey here and you'll get the full report emailed to you December 4th! 
    Resources for your Church Tech Ministry
    Sell Us Gear: Does your church have used gear that you need to convert into new ministry dollars? We can make you an offer here. 
    Buy Our Gear: Do you need some production gear but lack the budget to buy new gear? You can shop our gear store here.

     
     Connect with us: 
    Sales Bulletin: Get better deals than the public and get them earlier too here!
    Early Service: Get our best gear before it goes live on our site here. 
    Instagram: Hangout with us on the gram here! 
    Reviews: Leaving us a review on the podcast player you're listening to us on really helps the show. If you enjoyed this episode, you can say thank you with a review!
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    Don't Let Your Knowledge Base Literally Walk Out [ServiceCrew Pt1]

    08/10/2026 | 53 mins.
    Get your ServiceCrew resources here! 

    What happens to your Sunday service when your most critical technical volunteer gets sick, goes on vacation, or moves away? If your church production relies entirely on one or two people, you are one person away from a total disaster.

    In this episode, we tackle the danger of having a "single point of failure" in your tech booth. We break down the crucial importance of cross-training your church tech volunteers so that your audio, video, and lighting positions are never dependent on just one person.

    In this episode you'll hear:
    0:00 Intro: Meet Our Guest & Guest Host
    7:00 What Happens When Your Lead Techs Miss a Sunday?
    14:00 The Crucial Importance of Cross-Training Volunteers
    22:00 Documentation: Building a Church Tech Knowledge Base
    33:00 Is Building a Massive Volunteer Bench Actually Realistic?
    40:40 How to Communicate Your Need for Volunteers to Leadership
    43:30 The Danger of Depending on Just One Tech Volunteer
    Get expert help and care on your next integration project with our friends at HouseRight here. 
    Get up to 80% off with our Barn Burner sale! Get 20% off the rest of our inventory with code BARNBURNER26. 
    Take our survey here and you'll get the full report emailed to you December 4th! 
    Resources for your Church Tech Ministry
    Sell Us Gear: Does your church have used gear that you need to convert into new ministry dollars? We can make you an offer here. 
    Buy Our Gear: Do you need some production gear but lack the budget to buy new gear? You can shop our gear store here.

     
     Connect with us: 
    Sales Bulletin: Get better deals than the public and get them earlier too here!
    Early Service: Get our best gear before it goes live on our site here. 
    Instagram: Hangout with us on the gram here! 
    Reviews: Leaving us a review on the podcast player you're listening to us on really helps the show. If you enjoyed this episode, you can say thank you with a review!
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    How Many Errors Are Your Tech Volunteers Allowed to Make? [David Leuschner]

    08/03/2026 | 47 mins.
    How do you define "excellence" in a church tech ministry? And when a volunteer consistently falls short of that standard, how do you actually "fire" them and find a new ministry that better suits them? 

    In this episode, we are joined by church production veteran David Leuschner to tackle the hardest leadership conversations in ministry. We discuss the biblical definition of excellence, debate whether there should be different standards for the on-stage worship team versus the behind-the-scenes production techs, and answer the uncomfortable question: how many errors are your volunteers actually allowed to make?

    In this episode you'll hear: 
    0:00 Intro: The HouseRight Event & Toby’s Lack of Taste
    4:30 David Leuschner (Digital Great Commission Ministries) Joins
    8:15 Defining True "Excellence" in Church Production
    14:45 How to Train Your Volunteers for Excellence
    21:00 The Debate: On-Stage vs. Behind-the-Scenes Volunteer Standards
    26:00 What Does the Bible Actually Say About Excellence?
    28:45 The Budget Debate: Is It Okay to Spend a Fortune on AVL Gear?
    30:30 Grace vs. Standard: How Many Errors Are Volunteers Allowed?
    35:00 The Hardest Conversation: How to Fire a Tech Volunteer
    41:45 Keep Sundays Running: Focus on Transitions

    Get expert help and care on your next integration project with our friends at HouseRight here. 
    Get up to 80% off with our Barn Burner sale! Get 20% off the rest of our inventory with code BARNBURNER26. 
    Take our survey here and you'll get the full report emailed to you December 4th! 
    Resources for your Church Tech Ministry
    Sell Us Gear: Does your church have used gear that you need to convert into new ministry dollars? We can make you an offer here. 
    Buy Our Gear: Do you need some production gear but lack the budget to buy new gear? You can shop our gear store here.

     
     Connect with us: 
    Sales Bulletin: Get better deals than the public and get them earlier too here!
    Early Service: Get our best gear before it goes live on our site here. 
    Instagram: Hangout with us on the gram here! 
    Reviews: Leaving us a review on the podcast player you're listening to us on really helps the show. If you enjoyed this episode, you can say thank you with a review!
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About The ChurchGear Podcast
Are you a church tech director? If so, this podcast exists to serve you specifically. Each week we pull the tech director out of the booth and place them onto the stage to share their most outlandish stories and hidden wisdom from the tech trenches. Hosted by Toby Walters and Blake Hodges.
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