Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew

OUR BOOK IS FINALLY HERE! https://thecouragetocommit.com/

This week, we're honored to sit down with legendary Christian artist Steven Curtis Chapman and his wife Mary Beth Chapman for the second time on this podcast! Together, they share the remarkable story of their marriage, family, faith, and the experiences that shaped their lives.

We talk about the challenges they've faced, the lessons they've learned through loss and heartbreak, and the hope that has carried them forward. We also dive into their newest book and the stories they felt compelled to share for the first time.

This is an honest, inspiring conversation about resilience, faith, family, and what it takes to keep moving forward when life doesn't go as planned.

find more about Steven & Mary Beth here!

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After the incredible response to Dr. Delony's first appearance, we invited him back for a live event with our community. Enjoy a live counseling session with Dr.Delony at our show!

If you haven't grabbed your copy yet, The Courage to Commit is officially available wherever books are sold or at the link below.

https://thecouragetocommit.com/

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PRE-ORDER OUR BOOK HERE AND COME MEET US ON TOUR!! https://thecouragetocommit.com/

In this episode, we're sharing some of the secrets, fears, and experiences we've never talked about publicly before. We dive into the therapy lessons that genuinely changed our lives, family, and marriage, from understanding shame and anxiety to improving relationships, setting boundaries, and learning how to show up more authentically. Whether you're in therapy, considering it, or just trying to navigate life a little better, this conversation is full of honest reflections and practical takeaways.

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Come meet us on tour & pre-order our book here!
https://thecouragetocommit.com/

Psychiatrist, author, and speaker Curt Thompson joins us for a powerful conversation about anxiety, shame, healing, relationships, and what it means to be truly known.

Drawing from neuroscience, attachment theory, and decades of clinical experience, Curt explains why so many people feel disconnected, why shame is often hiding beneath our struggles, and how real transformation happens through connection- not isolation. We also discuss suffering, hope, mental health, community, and the stories we tell ourselves.

Whether you're navigating anxiety, feeling stuck, working through past wounds, or simply trying to build deeper relationships, this conversation offers practical wisdom and hope. We hope you enjoy it as much as we did!

Find out more about Dr. Curt Thompson here! https://curtthompsonmd.com/
https://www.instagram.com/curtthompsonmd/?hl=en

Love you guys,
Shawn & Andrew

(00:00) meet dr. curt thompson

(01:14) should hard work be a part of it?

(05:19) why is there pain or discomfort?

(08:13) cancel culture and how the internet fuels it

(17:40) how do we respond to shame, wield it, and use it?

(25:44) not avoiding or doubling down on shame

(30:14) fostering shame well

(38:38) healing past shame

(50:15) the power of our presence and making sense of our stories
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We absolutely loved this conversation with country artist Cooper Alan and his wife Hally who joined us to talk about their relationship journey — from meeting long before the fame to navigating marriage, touring, and becoming parents to their newborn daughter, Coley.

We get into how their relationship has changed through Cooper’s rise in country music, what life on the road really looks like, balancing family with touring, upcoming music and shows, and the moments that shaped them most along the way.

This episode is full of stories about love, growth, family, faith, country music, and building a life together through every season & we hope you love it as much as we did!!

You can find out more about Cooper Alan here! ➜
https://cooperalanmusic.com/

Follow Cooper here ➜ https://www.instagram.com/cooperalanmusic/?hl=en
Follow Hally here ➜ https://www.instagram.com/hallywcooper/?hl=en

Don't forget to find us on tour & pre-order our book today!! ➜ https://thecouragetocommit.com/

(00:00) meet the alans(01:08) parenting a girl 🥹(03:25) how the alans became the alans(05:50) best friends to marriage(08:20) selling beer and writing songs(12:20) superpower teammates in the world(15:00) it's the dream, keep chugging along(17:15) what breeds confidence and passion?(20:20) anxiety during the journey(22:44) the alans' past year(26:50) ebbing and flowing in marriage(30:22) the proposal(31:20) separating real life from social media(35:50) taking the leap and the creative process(38:25) defining success(41:00) being promoted to dad(42:20) balancing the "more"(46:50) the empaths in the room(48:00) what we want to be remembered for(54:40) what's coming up for cooper
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