Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew

In this episode, we sit down with the chart-topping Smallbone family of For King & Country to unpack the journey behind their music, message, and mission. From their early days growing up between continents to selling out arenas worldwide, they open up about the challenges that shaped their faith and fueled their passion- along with an inside look at their upcoming music and exciting new projects 👀 👀

From brotherhood to marriage, this conversation gives a candid, behind-the-scenes glimpse into how they navigate life, love, and creativity together. It’s honest, lighthearted, and full of depth, balancing plenty of laughs with meaningful moments.

Whether you’ve followed their journey for years or are just discovering their music, this episode offers a rare look at the heart, humor, and family behind the anthems.
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WE CAN'T WAIT TO MEET YOU GUYS!!!

A lot is happening right now—and we’re talking about all of it.
Tour prep is in full swing, we’re getting closer to meeting you, and we have so much more to say about the book (including some behind-the-scenes we’ve been holding back). This episode is part update, part chaos, and very real.Tour tickets, book order and more here ! https://thecouragetocommit.com/

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(00:00) in the thick of the book grind
(04:50) our why behind it
(09:00) a little excerpt from the book
(12:45) “if you’re not happy, go to the next one”
(16:00) finding depth in our lives
(20:00) breaking down the layout of the book
(24:09) our different voices represented in the book
(26:00) who is the book for?
(30:00) what we don’t show on social media
(33:10) our “rigid” lifestyle
(35:10) we’re going on tour!
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Back for round two, we sit down again with Arthur Brooks to go even deeper into the science and soul of a meaningful life. In this conversation, we move beyond the fundamentals of happiness and explore what it really takes to sustain it—especially through change, success, setbacks, and the evolving chapters of life.

Arthur shares fresh insights on emotional resilience, the hidden challenges of achievement, and how our definition of purpose shifts over time. We also get personal, unpacking habits, mindsets, and daily practices that can help you stay grounded, connected, and fulfilled in a fast-moving world.

If you’ve ever wondered how to not just find happiness—but keep it—this episode is for you.

Drop your thoughts, questions, or takeaways in the comments—we always love hearing how these conversations resonate with you. And if this episode speaks to you, send it to someone who could use it right now.

Love you guys!
Shawn & Andrew

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(00:00) the meaning of your life
(01:25) ready for part two with arthur?
(02:26) the macronutrients of happiness
(05:45) why can’t you articulate meaning?
(07:25) the effect of the technological world
(10:30) when should you “know” the meaning of your life
(14:50) is it possible to learn meaning if you only know “screens”?
(19:20) habits and relationships aren’t meaning
(23:00) the matrix is lying to you
(24:08) we are a kin-based species
(29:55) “you can’t be each other’s idol”
(35:25) having a noble struggle
(37:17) practice, then feel
(40:40) the first two steps of meaning
(51:20) should we do a part 3?
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We asked you to send in your real, unfiltered marriage questions… and you delivered.In this episode, we’re diving into everything—arguments that keep coming back, intimacy struggles no one talks about, parenting differences, and more. Nothing scripted, nothing off-limits.If you’ve ever thought “is this normal in marriage?”—this one’s for you!

Love you guys!

Shawn & Andrew

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TOUR!

June 7th — Nashville

June 8th — Philadelphia

June 9th — New York

June 10th — Chicago

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(00:00) “way to stay married!”
(02:00) should we start a new series?
(03:45) who is the most stubborn?
(07:55) breaking and rebuilding trust
(13:24) conflict when you’re on the same team
(16:22) having friends of the opposite sex
(25:40) boundaries with in-laws
(28:20) navigating different parenting styles
(31:45) our pet peeves with one another
(35:55) keeping it spicy
(37:17) best and hardest years of marriage
(41:40) how often do we fight?
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In today’s episode, in honor of our 10-year anniversary, we looked back at an episode you all loved where we made a list of things we wish we could tell ourselves as newlyweds. It was so fun to reminisce on the “honeymoon phase” after we got married and reflect on all the ways we’ve grown individually and as a couple since then.

We hope this episode encourages you in whatever stage of marriage you’re in. And to our single friends out there—don’t settle! Marriage is such a gift when it’s with the right person, and that person is worth the wait :)

Love you guys!
Shawn & Andrew

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CHECK OUT OUR BOOK! The Courage to Commit releases June 9, and if you pre-order now, you’ll get access to our exclusive bonus video series. All the details and redemption steps are on the book landing page.

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