In this episode of the AI Agents Podcast, we explore how Sapien.io is transforming the way fine-tuned large language models (LLMs) are built. Demetri Panici interviews Rowan Stone from Sapien to uncover how the company is rethinking AI training data by decentralizing the data collection process. Rather than relying on centralized data centers, Sapien empowers contributors worldwide to provide high-quality, structured knowledge, helping eliminate biases and enhance model performance.Rowan details how Sapien’s innovative data-foundry framework and incentive structures enable scalable, high-quality input for LLMs — from autonomous vehicle data to nuanced human insight across vertical specialties. With a growing network of 560,000+ contributors and clients like Midjourney and UN agencies, Sapien.io is setting a new standard for how enterprise-grade AI models are fine-tuned and optimized in a rapidly evolving tech landscape.▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬⏰ TIMESTAMPS:0:OO - Introduction1:00 - Introducing Sapien And Rowan 5:19 - Understanding Decentralization In AI 9:20 - Real-World Applications Of Decentralized Data 14:05 - Advice For Startups On Funding Success 16:52 - The User Base of Sapien18:58 - Building And Scaling An Early-Stage Team 21:44 - Improving Data Quality With Peer Review 25:58 - Agentic Models And Chain Of Reasoning 30:40 - Practical Use of Chain of Reasoning in the Workplace34:08 - Why Work with Vertical Models37:42 - The Next Leap In Humanoid AI Robotics40:58 - The Intelligence Level of AI Models45:08 - Final Thoughts▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Sign up for free ➡️ https://www.jotform.com/▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Follow us on: Twitter ➡️ https://x.com/aiagentspodcastInstagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/aiagentspodcastTikTok ➡️ https://www.tiktok.com/@aiagentspodcast▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
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The Best AI Search Engines in 2025 | EP45
In this episode of the AI Agents Podcast, we explore the most advanced AI search engines shaping how we access information in 2025. Hosts Demetri Panici and Aytekin Tank dive deep into tools like Perplexity, Gemini, Claude, and Maini, highlighting how they outperform traditional search engines by providing streamlined, high-quality research and actionable insights. From researching competitors to generating sales content, these AI tools are transforming workflows for small businesses and enterprise teams alike.We also explore how AI search engines offer major advantages in real-time event discovery, news tracking, and personal productivity, even integrating with Google Calendar, Gmail, and Drive. Plus, hear how AI now handles everything from analyzing images and videos to creating personalized research dashboards and dynamic web content. If you’re ready to reduce your reliance on Google and level up your information gathering in 2025, this episode is a must-listen.▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬⏰ TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Exploring Gemini Deep Research 1:05 - New Features In Jotform AI Agents 3:46 - AI Agents Replacing Google Search 11:02 - Comparing Intercom Fin And Jotform 18:59 - Perplexity For Automated Deep Research 27:12 - Automating Competitive Research With Make 30:52 - Deep Research In AI-Powered News Discovery 35:05 - Real-Time Event Search With AI 41:01 - Claude’s Web Search And Gmail Integration 48:02 - AI Image Recognition For Location Search▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Sign up for free ➡️ https://www.jotform.com/▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Follow us on: Twitter ➡️ https://x.com/aiagentspodcastInstagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/aiagentspodcastTikTok ➡️ https://www.tiktok.com/@aiagentspodcast▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
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How GPT 4 1 Changes Everything for Developers | EP44
In this episode of the AI Agents podcast, we take a deep dive into the groundbreaking release of GPT-4.1 and explore why it's a game-changer for developers. From improved coding accuracy and better instruction-following to multimodal enhancements and expanded context windows, GPT-4.1 sets a new standard for AI performance. We break down the capabilities of 4.1’s variants—Mini and Nano—and discuss how they deliver powerful results at a fraction of the cost, making advanced AI more accessible than ever.We also uncover how GPT-4.1 can be integrated via API for tasks like dynamic content generation, web app development, and productivity-driven workflows. Whether you're building smarter tools or scaling AI capabilities for your team, this episode offers insights into how to fully leverage the latest from OpenAI. Don't miss the real-world applications, pricing comparisons, and key limitations that developers need to know.▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬⏰ TIMESTAMPS:0:22 - Welcome To AI Agents Podcast 0:44 - Overview Of ChatGPT 4.1 Release 1:22 - Key Improvements In 4.1 Models 2:28 - Performance Gains In Coding And Instructions 3:32 - 4.1 Nano Vs Other Models 4:40 - Cost Benefits Of New Mini And Nano 5:54 - Using ChatGPT 4.1 In Automation Tools 7:01 - Comparing Pricing Across Model Types 8:22 - How To Utilize Models In API 9:24 - Final Thoughts On 4.1 Capabilities▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Sign up for free ➡️ https://www.jotform.com/▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Follow us on: Twitter ➡️ https://x.com/aiagentspodcastInstagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/aiagentspodcastTikTok ➡️ https://www.tiktok.com/@aiagentspodcast▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
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The AI Agency Building Custom Agents for You | EP43
In this episode of the AI Agents Podcast, Demetri Panici sits down with Andrew Wesbecher, founder of Powered_By, to explore how bespoke AI agents are transforming small to medium-sized businesses. We dive into their innovative approach of building custom voice, email, SMS, and digital avatar agents to help SMBs leverage AI without needing internal technical teams. Learn how Powered By's consultancy-driven model bridges the technology gap, bringing enterprise-level AI solutions to businesses that have historically been overlooked.Andrew shares his journey from enterprise software to AI, highlights the mission behind democratizing sophisticated agent technology, and discusses real-world use cases — from virtual sales engineers to outbound marketing agents. If you're a business owner curious about AI agents' potential to amplify customer engagement, streamline operations, and future-proof your organization, this episode is a must-listen.▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬⏰ TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - How AI Agents Are Revolutionizing Voice Technology 0:47 - Introduction Of Powered By And Andrew Westbecker 1:41 - Andrew’s Entrepreneurial Journey Into AI Agents 4:59 - Mission To Support Small To Medium Businesses With AI 7:07 - SMBs Falling Behind In AI Adoption 11:38 - Powered By’s Bespoke AI Agent Solutions Explained 16:01 - Building The Future Wix For AI Agents 20:38 - How AI Agents Will Impact Hiring And Workforce Efficiency 25:01 - The Power of Voice Agents27:47 - Have We Crossed the Uncanny Valley?32:03 - The Most Intriguing Use Case of Powered_By35:12 - Outbound AI37:48 - Why Memory Matters for AI Agents40:10 - How to Manage the Learning Process of AI Agents?46:27 - AI Agent Best Practices48:32 - The Perfect AI Agent50:55 - Closing Thoughts▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Sign up for free ➡️ https://www.jotform.com/▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Follow us on: Twitter ➡️ https://x.com/aiagentspodcastInstagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/aiagentspodcastTikTok ➡️ https://www.tiktok.com/@aiagentspodcast▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
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OpenAI's o3 and o4 are Here! | EP42
In this episode of the AI Agents Podcast, Demetri Panici dives deep into the groundbreaking release of OpenAI's O3 and O4 mini models. With near-human reasoning capabilities, built-in function calling, Python execution during thought processes, and advanced visual understanding, these models mark a huge leap forward in AI performance. Demetri breaks down their IQ-level benchmarks, pricing structure, tool integrations, and real-world applications, including complex problem-solving, global geoguessing from images, and enhanced research capabilities.Join us as we explore how O3 and O4 mini redefine what's possible in AI, from business intelligence to scientific forecasting. Whether you're curious about their ability to generate predictive models, analyze historical data, or accurately guess locations from street signs and architecture, this episode paints a full picture of how close we are getting to true AGI innovation.▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬⏰ TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Exploring AI IQ Scores 0:37 - Welcome To AI Agents Podcast 0:58 - ChatGPT's O3 And O4 Mini Launch 2:48 - O3's Major IQ Advancements 5:00 - Real World Use Cases For O3 6:07 - Action Calls And Reasoning In AI 7:00 - Cost And Pricing Breakdown 8:00 - O3's Stunning Image Recognition 9:00 - Geoguessing And Image Analysis 10:02 - Final Thoughts On AI Progress▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Sign up for free ➡️ https://www.jotform.com/▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Follow us on: Twitter ➡️ https://x.com/aiagentspodcastInstagram ➡️ https://www.instagram.com/aiagentspodcastTikTok ➡️ https://www.tiktok.com/@aiagentspodcast▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Welcome to AI Agents, Jotform’s official podcast about all things AI Agents related, hosted by Aytekin Tank and Demetri Panici. Tune in as we discuss the current state of AI Agents, its future, developments in the AI form industry, and more. We’ll also be joined by a variety of guests and industry experts to discuss their unique positioning in the world of AI. Subscribe or follow to stay updated on new episodes!
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