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Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD
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    Bonus – Living Beyond the OCD Loop with Ally Kristan (302)

    06/16/2026 | 18 mins.
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    Bonus – Living Beyond the OCD Loop with Ally Kristan (302)

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    What is OCD really like beyond the stereotypes?

    In part two of our three part series on deepening the understanding OCD, Marine biologist and author Ally Kristan shares her lifelong experience living with OCD, challenging common misconceptions that reduce the disorder to cleanliness or organization. Ally discusses the intrusive thoughts, compulsions, shame, and relentless search for certainty that characterize OCD, as well as the relief of finally receiving a diagnosis and effective support. Together, Ally and Dr. Ann Kelley explore themes of control, uncertainty, mindfulness, relationships, self-compassion, and how healing can come from understanding—not fighting—the parts of ourselves that struggle. The episode offers an honest, hopeful look at living with OCD and finding ways to transform fear into meaning and connection.

    “We’re not out of touch with reality. We know that what we’re doing doesn’t make sense, but we just can’t help doing it anyway.” – Ally Kristan

    Time Stamps for Bonus – Living Beyond the OCD Loop with Ally Kristan (302)

    06:34 Personal journey: Discovering my OCD

    11:34 Therapeutic insights: The role of specialists

    16:19 The OCD loop: Understanding the cycle

    23:01 Transforming OCD: Finding positive outlets

    31:03 Radical acceptance and its challenges

    35:10 Finding Authenticity in Confrontation

    42:23 Transforming compulsions into positive rituals

    52:28 The balance of reassurance in relationships

    55:59 The intersection of OCD and career choices

    58:00 Lessons from penguins: Resilience and love

    01:00:54 Conservation concerns: The krill catastrophe

    01:07:28 Coping tools and resources for OCD

    About our Guest – Ally Kristan 

    Ally Kristan is a marine conservation biologist, Antarctic expert and OCD advocate originally from Raleigh, North Carolina. She holds a B.S. in Marine Biology from UNC Wilmington and an M.S. in Oceanography & Coastal Sciences from Louisiana State University. A salient voice for wildlife protection, Ally has appeared in National Public Radio (NPR), National Audubon Society and Hakai Magazine. Her work has brought her from a sea turtle hospital in North Carolina to whale watch boats in Maui to raucous seabird colonies in Florida, then from the U.S. National Science Foundation in Washington D.C. to McMurdo Station, Antarctica. Ally now resides on the North Carolina coast where, when not working in the lab, she can be found amongst animals.

     

    Resources for Living Beyond the OCD Loop with Ally Kristan (302)

    Ally Kristan’s website – Additional resources & information

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    Why Certainty Isn’t the Answer: OCD, Intrusive Thoughts & Recovery with Dr. Jon Abramowitz (301)

    06/09/2026 | 1h 11 mins.
    You can’t think your way out of OCD

    In part one of our three-part series on Anxiety and OCD, Dr. Jon Abramowitz helps us understand why intrusive thoughts are normal, how OCD turns them into a source of distress, and what keeps the cycle going. We explore uncertainty, reassurance-seeking, relationship dynamics, and the research-backed treatments that help people reclaim their lives from OCD.In this conversation, we unpack the surprising truth about intrusive thoughts, why reassurance often backfires, and how learning to tolerate uncertainty can be a powerful path toward recovery.

    “There is no such thing as absolute certainty.” – Dr. Jon Abramowitz

    Time Stamps for Why Certainty Isn’t the Answer: OCD, Intrusive Thoughts & Recovery with Dr. Jon Abramowitz (301)

    02:40 Understanding anxiety and its disorders

    05:46 Distinguishing normal anxiety from OCD

    08:21 The nature of obsessional thoughts

    14:09 The cycle of OCD and compulsions

    16:53 The role of exposure and response prevention

    19:44 Understanding scrupulosity in OCD

    25:25 Treatment approaches for OCD

    33:34 Managing distress in OCD therapy

    36:55 Understanding control and uncertainty in OCD

    40:41 Distinguishing OCD from Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder

    50:02 Supporting loved ones with OCD

    About our Guest – Dr. Jon Abramowitz (301)

    Jonathan (Jon) Abramowitz, Ph.D., is Professor and Director of Clinical Training in the Department of Psychology and Neuroscience at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. His research and clinical work focuses on obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and anxiety disorders, including fears and phobias, health anxiety, and panic attacks. He has authored over 350 scientific publications and 20 books, which have been translated into several languages. He served as President of the Association for Behavioral and Cognitive Therapies and as Editor or Associate Editor of several academic journals. Dr. Abramowitz has received wide recognition for his scholarly work and contributions.

     

    Resources for Why Certainty Isn’t the Answer: OCD, Intrusive Thoughts & Recovery with Dr. Jon Abramowitz (301)

    Dr. Abramowitz website – Resources and information

    OCD resources for clinicians and consumers 

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    Learn how your nervous system, your mind, and your relationships work together in a fascinating dance, shaping who you are and how you connect with others. Online, Self-Paced, Asynchronous Learning with Quarterly Live Q&A’s! Earn 6 Continuing Education Credits – Available at Checkout As a listener of this podcast, use code BAS15 for a limited-time discount.

     

     

     

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    300 Episodes In: Why Feedback Is So Hard (300)

    05/26/2026 | 1h 2 mins.
    Celebrating 300 episodes with one of the hardest relationship skills: feedback.

    Sue and Ann reflect on a decade of podcasting and dive into one of the the most challenging parts of any relationship: giving and receiving feedback. Through candid personal stories, humor, and clinical insight, they explore how attachment history, defensiveness, trauma, and vulnerability shape the way we handle conflict and communication. This conversation explains why feedback can feel so threatening, how couples get stuck arguing facts instead of feelings, and why repair—not perfection—is the foundation of healthy relationships.

    “Feedback is a bid for connection.” – Sue Marriott, LCSW CGP

    Time Stamps for 300 Episodes In: Why Feedback Is So Hard (300)

    01:56 The challenge of feedback: Giving and receiving

    07:29 Understanding the difficulty of giving feedback

    11:06 The fear of feedback: Avoidance and anticipation

    16:15 The overestimation of awareness: Why we hold back

    26:32 Navigating the receiving end of feedback

    32:34 Impact over intent: The key to effective communication

    34:54 Navigating feedback and racial sensitivity

    41:08 Defensiveness in relationships

    52:09 The role of trauma in relationships

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    Self-Led Sexuality: Reclaiming Intimacy Through IFS with Patricia Rich, LCSW (299)

    05/12/2026 | 1h 19 mins.
    Sex can feel complicated when our parts get involved

    Patricia Rich introduces the concept of self-led sexuality — approaching sexuality from curiosity, compassion, and connection rather than fear or conditioning. She explains how understanding our internal “parts” can help individuals navigate conflicting desires, deepen consent, and create greater safety within themselves and their relationships. Explore the complexities of sexuality, emphasizing the importance of self-led sexuality and the integration of Internal Family Systems (IFS) in sexual therapy. The conversation also examines the broader cultural forces that influence sexuality, including capitalism, gender expectations, and the silence many therapists themselves experience around sexual topics. Grounded in both clinical insight and humanity, this episode offers a refreshing framework for understanding sexuality as a space for healing, embodiment, and authentic connection.

    “Listening to our desires doesn’t mean we have to act on them all. Simply acknowledging the parts of ourselves who hold those desires and validating their longings can bring inner connection and vitality.” – Patricia Rich, LCSW CST-S

    Time Stamps for Bonus – Self-Led Sexuality: Reclaiming Intimacy Through IFS with Patricia Rich, LCSW CST-S (299)

    01:51 The challenges of discussing sexuality

    07:53 Integrating IFS into sexual therapy

    13:39 The positive intentions of our parts

    22:17 Self-led sexuality: Leading from within

    28:01 Therapists’ relationship with sexuality

    35:51 The six S’s of sexual self-energy

    40:28 Creating Safety in Sexual Conversations

    45:03 Exploring sensuality and its barriers

    01:01:10 Exploring exiled parts and performance pressure

    01:05:07 The concept of internal consent

    01:11:36 Cultural influences on sexuality and self-perception

    About our Guest – Patricia Rich, LCSW, CST-S (She/Her)

    Patricia Rich, LCSW, CST-S (she/her) is an IFS Institute Certified Level 3 IFS Therapist and Approved Consultant and an AASECT Certified Sex Therapist and Supervisor. She has developed a unique integrative model for Self-Led Sexuality to help people findmore ease, joy, and confidence in the bedroom and beyond. She has originated IFS- informed concepts such as Internal Consent and The Six S’s of Sexual Self-Energy. Patty has presented at the IFS Annual Conference, taught a module for the IFS Institute Online Continuity program, led workshops internationally, and authored a chapter in Altogether Us: Integrating the IFS Model with Key Modalities, Communities and Trends. She offers training and consultation to professionals and loves helping people to BeHold and Lead their Internal Sexual Systems (BLISS)TM. She hosts “Self-Led in Bed: An IFS & Sexuality Podcast” and lives in the Philadelphia area where she also has a private practice. You can get her free guide to The Six S’s and learn more about her offerings at www.patriciarich.com or follow her on Instagram @patriciarichconsulting.

    Resources for Bonus – Self-Led Sexuality: Reclaiming Intimacy Through IFS with Patricia Rich, LCSW CST-S (299)

    Self-Led in Bed: An IFS & Sexuality Podcast – Patricia’s podcast

    Patricia’s website – Information & resources

    IFS Integration: A Comprehensive Guide to Applying Internal Family Systems Across Modalities, Populations, and Clinical Presentations – Check out Patricia’s chapter in this book

    Beyond Attachment Styles course is available NOW!  

    Learn how your nervous system, your mind, and your relationships work together in a fascinating dance, shaping who you are and how you connect with others. Online, Self-Paced, Asynchronous Learning with Quarterly Live Q&A’s! Earn 6 Continuing Education Credits – Available at Checkout As a listener of this podcast, use code BAS15 for a limited-time discount.

     

     
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    Between Two Worlds: Navigating Bicultural Identity with Sahaj Kohli, MA.Ed, LGPC, NCC (298)

    04/28/2026 | 48 mins.
    What does it mean to belong to more than one world at once?

    Sahaj Kohli—founder of Brown Girl Therapy and author of What Will People Say?—explores the emotional complexity of bicultural identity, the immigrant experience, and the hidden pressures of being “culturally enough.” Together, we explore how culture shapes mental health, why many therapy models miss the mark for marginalized communities, and what truly culturally responsive care can look like. Sahaj also shares how social media became a lifeline for connection, community, and healing for people navigating multiple identities. This episode offers powerful insight for therapists, helpers, and anyone balancing family expectations, identity, and belonging across cultures.

    “Collectives are made of individuals, and we can’t be our best selves within those collectives and in those roles if we are not also taking care of ourselves. Yet we can’t be our best selves as individuals without considering the collective and our communities.” – Sahaj Kohli

    Time Stamps for Between Two Worlds: Navigating Bicultural Identity with Sahaj Kohli (298)

    03:46 Cultural identity and the immigrant experience

    07:28 The birth of Brown Girl Therapy

    11:22 Understanding the dominant narrative

    15:07 Cultural differences in communication and boundaries

    19:05 Cultural responsiveness in therapy

    26:49 The burden of cultural “enoughness”

    29:11 Navigating pride and shame in biculturalism

    31:08 Grief and loss in cultural transition

    39:20 Resources for bicultural and multicultural understanding

    About our Guest – Sahaj Kohli MA.Ed, LGPC, NCC 

    Sahaj Kohli by Beowulf Sheehan

    Sahaj Kaur Kohli MA.Ed, LGPC, NCC is an award-winning therapist and mental health educator. She is the founder of Brown Girl Therapy (@browngirltherapy), the first and largest mental health and wellness community organization for adult children of immigrants, an advice columnist for the Washington Post, and host and creator of the limited series podcast, So We’ve Been Told. Sahaj is also author of the book, “But What Will People Say: Navigating Mental Health, Identity, Love and Family Between Cultures” named one of Audible’s “best of” in 2024. With a 6+ year career in journalism under her belt, Sahaj’s passion lies at the intersection of narrative storytelling and mental health advocacy. You can follow Sahaj’s writing on Substack: Culturally Enough. is a resource for the community and The Bicultural Brief is a resource for clinicians who want to be more culturally responsive in their care. Sahaj’s words and work have been featured across media, like in Today, NPR, Good Morning America, CNN, The New York Times, and others. Sahaj also serves as a corporate consultant, educator and international speaker.

    Resources for Between Two Worlds: Navigating Bicultural Identity with Sahaj Kohli (298)

    @BrownGirlTherapy – Sahaj’s Instagram profile

    Sahaj’s Website – Resources, information, events & more

    But What Will People Say? Navigating Mental Health, Identity, Love, and Family Between Cultures – Get your copy today!!

    Beyond Attachment Styles course is available NOW!  

    Learn how your nervous system, your mind, and your relationships work together in a fascinating dance, shaping who you are and how you connect with others. Online, Self-Paced, Asynchronous Learning with Quarterly Live Q&A’s! Earn 6 Continuing Education Credits – Available at Checkout As a listener of this podcast, use code BAS15 for a limited-time discount.

     

     

     

    You are invited! 

    Join our exclusive community to get early access and discounts to things we produce, plus an ad-free, private feed. In addition, receive exclusive episodes recorded just for you. Sign up for our premium Neuronerd plan!! Click here!! 

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