The Unshakeables

After serving in the Marine Corps, Jerry Shaffer built a career as a business consultant. Then a conversation with the wife of a veteran who had died by suicide stopped him cold — she had no idea if she was eligible for benefits or where to turn. While Gold Star and Blue Star families had recognition and support, she had neither. So, Jerry built Red Star Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to raising awareness around veteran and first responder suicide and making sure surviving families don't get left behind.
In this Veterans Day episode, Stevie Baron, CEO of Chase for Business, and Kathleen Griffith sit down with Jerry to talk about building a mission-driven organization, what for-profit founders can learn from nonprofits, and why the hardest battles are often the ones nobody sees coming. These are The Unshakeables.
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On this bonus episode of The Unshakeables, we head to Atlanta for the Make Your Move Summit, where Chase for Business brings together small business owners and experts for three days of learning, growing, and building real, lasting connections. This year, a number of small businesses joined with one goal: to thrive. Running a business means wearing every hat and finding the right support often drops to the bottom of the list. But some of the most useful resources out there are built just for small business owners, and many owners don’t know where to find them.
Join Stevie Baron, CEO of Chase for Business, as he sits down with Kelly Loeffler, Administrator of the U.S. Small Business Administration, to talk about how the SBA supports small businesses, from access to capital to the resources available to owners at every stage of growth. These are The Unshakeables.
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Marc Pendergraft and John Modi have been in business together for almost as long as they've been friends ― and they met in middle school. As college students, they made women's shoes, but their real breakthrough came with MakerFlo, a wholesale business offering tumblers, cutting boards and other products that makers can customize and sell. A pandemic-era boom helped them grow, but a $2 million loss and excess inventory nearly ended it all. What kept them going was simple: they remembered why they started.
Join Stevie Baron, CEO of Chase for Business, and Kathleen Griffith as they talk with Marc and John about the cost of pivoting, protecting employee benefits through financial losses and building an unshakeable partnership. These are The Unshakeables.
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On this special episode, The Unshakeables heads to Washington, D.C. Stevie Baron, CEO of Chase for Business, was joined by five small business owners who spent the day on Capitol Hill to talk about issues that matter most.

Join Stevie, as he sits down with Arielle Elliott, CEO of the Washington Sun, at the Washington Sun’s American Small Business Summit to discuss what he heard on the Hill—and the simplest way anyone can show up for small business right now. These are The Unshakeables.
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Barry Brennan and Steven Katz built Flying Lion around a simple but ambitious idea — put drones in the sky to protect people on the ground. They pioneered a “drone as first responder” business for private security and commercial operations. It was a niche few were willing to bet on, but Barry went all in. Then one contract tripled their workload overnight. For a year, they ran nonstop to keep up — until five employees quit at once, leaving Barry and Steven to hold it all together.
In this episode, Stevie Baron, CEO of Chase for Business, joins Kathleen Griffith for the first time to talk with Barry about scaling before you’re ready, what a mass resignation teaches you about building a team and what it really means to be first on the scene. These are The Unshakeables.
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