The John Fugelsang Podcast

In this episode of We're Still Here, John welcomes back the insightful duo of Simon Moya Smith, an Oglala Lakota and Chicano journalist, and Julie Francella, a seasoned mental health professional specializing in Indigenous youth and families. Together, they dive into the recent political triumph of Peggy Flanagan, who has secured the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate in Minnesota. They discuss the significance of her potential historic win as the first Native woman in the Senate and the broader implications for Indigenous representation in U.S. politics.
Simon and Julie reflect on the importance of Indigenous values in governance, emphasizing the need for more Indigenous voices in leadership roles. They explore the ongoing struggles faced by Indigenous communities, particularly in relation to the construction of the border wall by federal contractors on sacred lands. The conversation highlights the tension between tribal sovereignty and federal authority, illustrating how these issues impact Indigenous peoples and their rights to their ancestral lands.
As the discussion unfolds, they tackle cultural appropriation in the context of the Miss Universe Canada pageant, where contestant Ashley Colling Bull boldly confronted the pageant officials over inappropriate representations of Indigenous culture. The trio emphasizes the difference between cultural appreciation and appropriation, advocating for respectful representation and the need for Indigenous voices in all narratives surrounding their cultures.
Listeners are invited to engage in this enlightening conversation, as John, Simon, and Julie take calls from the audience, addressing everything from Indigenous languages to personal experiences with nature and spirituality. This episode is a powerful reminder of the resilience of Indigenous communities and the importance of representation in all aspects of society.
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In this episode, John discusses the recent excuses from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth regarding the conditions aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, while also addressing Trump's controversial decisions affecting military aircraft carriers. As the discussion progresses, John emphasizes the importance of Democratic messaging on economic issues, challenging the longstanding Republican narrative of fiscal responsibility with hard-hitting facts about economic performance under different administrations.
Then, John interviews Congressman Jared Huffman, who discusses his new book, No Profits, which tackles the rise of Christian nationalism in American politics. Huffman sheds light on the alarming intertwining of religious extremism and governance, particularly in the wake of the January 6th insurrection, and reflects on the need for a secular government based on reason and science. Their conversation navigates through the complexities of faith in politics, the dangers of Christian nationalism, and the responsibilities of lawmakers to uphold the separation of church and state.
Next, John welcomes back Bob Cesca, host of the acclaimed Bob Cesca Show and co-host of Trek Politics with Mary Trump. They chat about the recent departure of Karoline Leavitt, reflecting on her role as a human shield in the Trump administration and the implications of such a move as the midterms loom. They tackle the controversial executive order regarding childhood vaccinations, dissecting the potential public health ramifications of breaking up the MMR vaccine schedule. Bob highlights the challenges this poses for low-income families, emphasizing the political motivations behind Trump's decisions rather than any genuine concern for public health.
Then, John welcomes the brilliant columnist and public speaker Wajahat Ali to the show. They talk about into the recent revelations surrounding Donald Trump's bank accounts and the implications of Capital One's decision to shut down numerous accounts linked to the former president. Waj discusses the stark contrast in media coverage, questioning why such significant stories receive minimal attention when they involve Trump, while similar situations with Democrats would spark outrage and congressional hearings. Together, they explore the lack of accountability for powerful figures in American politics and the troubling trend of prioritizing political expediency over truth.
John then welcomes back TV's Frank Conniff, known for his iconic role on Mystery Science Theater 3000. They share laughs while dissecting the current political climate, including the resignation of press secretary Karoline Leavitt and the media's role in perpetuating misinformation. Frank offers his unique perspective on the stupidity of the Trump administration, as well as the importance of humor in navigating these turbulent times.
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John talks about the chaos surrounding White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt's departure from the Trump regime, highlighting her legacy of misinformation and the irony of her leaving just as the truth about Trump’s administration begins to unravel. John reflects on Leavitt's tenure as press secretary, where she managed to redefine reality while providing minimal press access. Then, John is joined by journalist Ahmed Baba, who shares insights on the implications of Levitt's exit and the broader landscape of the Republican Party. They discuss the potential fallout from Trump’s actions and the desperate measures being taken as the midterms approach. Ahmed emphasizes the importance of holding the administration accountable and the role of young voters in shaping the future. They also tackle the pressing issues of immigration, the economy, and the rise of anti-Semitism, all while navigating the complexities of identity politics in America. They examine the shifting dynamics within the Democratic Party and the need for a unified front against the rising tide of extremism. Finally, John welcomes the hilarious Funny Women of a Certain Age—Carole Montgomery, and Maureen Langan, who bring their sharp wit to the table, discussing the importance of laughter in times of political turmoil. They explore the stupidity of the current administration and the resilience of comedians in addressing serious issues with humor.
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John talks about the bizarre revelation that Donald Trump was whisked away in a catering truck to escape an assassination plot. He critiques the expendability of certain White House staff members left behind during this covert operation. He then shifts gears to discuss the recent midterm primaries, highlighting the ideological and generational divides within the Democratic Party. With a focus on the outcomes from South Carolina, Minnesota, and Connecticut, John examines how candidates like Darline Graham, Peggy Flanagan, and Luke Bronin are reshaping the political landscape.
Then joining John, is Emily Cherniak, founder and executive director of New Politics. They discuss the significance of servant leadership in politics, the importance of candidate preparation, and the lessons learned from recent primary elections. Emily shares insights on how to identify political talent and the challenges that come with uniting the left and center within the Democratic Party. The conversation touches on the crucial need for leaders who prioritize community service over personal ambition, and how this philosophy can lead to more effective governance.
Next, John welcomes back the esteemed Reverend Barry Lynn, a longtime civil liberties lawyer and activist, to the show. They delve into the ongoing civil war within the Democratic Party, examining the tensions between establishment Democrats and the rising influence of Democratic Socialists. They discuss the historical context of the Equal Access Act and how Reverend Lynn's activism transformed a potentially harmful statute into a vehicle for promoting inclusivity in schools. They also reflect on the irony of the religious right leveraging this legislation to establish clubs that ultimately support marginalized groups, such as gay-straight alliances.
Then, John engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Nikki Porcher, a U.S. Air Force veteran and the Democratic nominee for Georgia Labor Commissioner. Nikki shares her inspiring journey from a technical trade high school to military service, and ultimately to advocating for labor rights and economic opportunities for all Georgians. She discusses her nonprofit organization, Buy From Black Women, which has empowered underserved entrepreneurs and generated over $6 million in revenue.
And finally, John brings back the dynamic duo of Dillon Naber Cruz and Pastor December Rose AKA The God Squad, who bring their unique perspectives on progressive Christianity and the alarming rise of authoritarianism within the faith community. They engage in a thought-provoking conversation about the implications of recent political maneuvers, including the push for stricter abortion laws and the relationship between the Trump administration and its evangelical supporters. Dillon's latest Substack piece, "Let's Get Biblically Literal: Abortion Edition," sparks a lively debate about the biblical interpretations used to justify anti-abortion stances.
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John's monologue discusses the absurdity of a recent Washington Post scoop revealing that Trump was smuggled out of Turkey in a catering truck to evade an assassination threat. John breaks down the implications of this bizarre operation, where the President left his press corps and staff as decoys aboard Air Force One. Then, John dives into the controversial executive order signed by Trump regarding childhood vaccinations, which suggests separating the MMR vaccine into individual shots. He emphasizes the lack of scientific backing for this recommendation and the potential risks it poses to children's health. He interviews Dr. Mansi Kotwal, a dedicated pediatrician and board member of Healthcare for Action, who provides expert insights into the implications of this order. Together, they debunk myths surrounding vaccines and autism, clarifying that extensive research has shown no causal link between the two. Next, John welcomes the incomparable Margaret Cho, a Grammy and Emmy-nominated actor, comedian, musician, and activist, back to the show. They kick off the conversation with Margaret's new single, Grippy Sock Vacation, a personal reflection on her time in rehab that showcases her unique ability to blend humor with vulnerability. Margaret shares how her experiences in a mental health facility rejuvenated her creative spirit and solidified her love for comedy, challenging the misconception that recovery stifles artistic expression. The discussion then shifts to the pressures women face regarding body image and societal expectations, with Margaret candidly recounting her own struggles and the absurdity of being told she was "too heavy" to play herself on screen. They explore how the entertainment landscape has evolved, addressing the complexities of body shaming across genders and the political implications of conformity. And finally, John welcomes back comedians Rhonda Handsome and Keith Price. The trio tackles the sheer lunacy of political figures spreading falsehoods about public health, all while reminiscing about the miracle of modern medicine that has kept diseases like polio at bay. They also discusses the recent political landscape in Michigan, spotlighting Dr. Abdul El-Sayed as a promising candidate for the Senate and they analyze how the current climate might be shifting towards more progressive candidates who prioritize working-class issues, emphasizing the importance of addressing the needs of everyday Americans over corporate interests.
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