Send us a textA spider-filled garage sets the tone, but the chill arrives when we revisit a body-cam moment from the Chris Watts case that feels impossibly exact. As a neighbor tries to pull up security footage, the app crashes into a National Geographic ad: a fetus in the womb, an eruption, a skull in oil. We walk through that nine-second cascade with clear eyes—no hype, no ghoulish delight—asking how coincidence, conscience, and pattern-seeking collide when a killer is cornered in his own head.From there, we move room to room with the K9 team, weighing alleged giggles and whispered EVPs against echo, stress, and the way investigators’ faces change when they hear something they can’t place. We don’t chase every shadow; we slow down, replay, and consider the most ordinary explanations first. Still, we make space for how genuinely weird some moments are, and how grief-soaked places can prime both errors and insight. Along the way, we talk true crime ethics, why some creators get it right, and what responsible analysis looks like when real families and real loss are involved.The conversation widens into faith and the supernatural without leaving reason behind. Why would the obvious reveal—an angel on camera, a demon in 4K—undercut free will? Why is evil usually subtle, dressed in plain clothes, and friendly at the bar? We swap stories about sensing “the weight” in certain places, discuss the thin veil idea, and return to a practical center: discernment. Hold wonder and logic together. Respect evidence. Refuse to feed on tragedy for thrills. And recognize that the scariest truths aren’t always the ones caught on tape.If this episode sparked thought, share it with a friend, subscribe for more grounded deep dives, and leave a quick review to tell us where you land—fate, fluke, or something we don’t have words for yet. Attorneys For Freedom Law FirmAttorneys For Freedom Law Firm: Attorneys on Retainer ProgramPodpageWith Podpage, you can build a beautiful podcast website in 5 minutes (or less).The Mick and Pat HQCheck out our website.AudibleSignup for your free 30-day trial of Audible now & get your first book for free!Karl Casey a.k.a. White Bat AudioMusic by Karl Casey @WhiteBatAudioPrimary ArmsPrimary Arms is who we trust for our firearm related purchases!Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show
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Rusted Blades and Red Rocks
Send us a textThe gear you carry should earn its place, and sometimes that truth shows up the hard way. We open with a CRKT Provoke that went from ocean-rusted and over-torqued to brand-new after a painfully honest warranty claim—no lecture, just a fix. From there, we dig into how value really works in everyday carry: why affordable tools you won’t lose might beat luxury blades you will, and why customer support can matter more than steel type.Our attention turns to firearms and the fine print of reliability. We unpack a Shadow Systems barrel saga where microscopic tolerance errors turned a carry gun into a jam machine, how we documented the failure, and what finally solved it. Then we wade into the SIG P320 controversy with clear eyes—how striker-fired designs differ, why tolerance stacking can create edge-case dangers, and what sets apart safe platforms from ones that demand too much faith.Resetting outdoors changed the tone. Zion and Bryce Canyon delivered the most seamless national park experience we’ve had: e‑bikes up the canyon road, quiet pullouts with grandstand views, and Bryce’s surreal hoodoos that bend perspective and legs.Finally, an archery elk hunt that came down to inches and wind. We patterned bulls, set perfect ambushes, drew at 20–35 yards, and watched two chances vanish when the breeze turned. Along the way: shot ethics, arrow versus bullet realities, and a humble camp stew after a long hike. No hero shots—just honest lessons about why wind is king, why process beats ego, and how close calls sharpen the next season.If you’re into practical gear, national park strategy, the messy truth about water in the West, or the adrenaline and humility of hunting, this one’s for you. Listen, share with a friend who loves sharp tools or big sandstone, and leave a review to tell us what gear you trust most—and why. Attorneys For Freedom Law FirmAttorneys For Freedom Law Firm: Attorneys on Retainer ProgramPodpageWith Podpage, you can build a beautiful podcast website in 5 minutes (or less).The Mick and Pat HQCheck out our website.AudibleSignup for your free 30-day trial of Audible now & get your first book for free!Karl Casey a.k.a. White Bat AudioMusic by Karl Casey @WhiteBatAudioPrimary ArmsPrimary Arms is who we trust for our firearm related purchases!Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show
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Navigating Faith, Vengeance, and Media Manipulation
Send us a textThe assassination of Charlie Kirk has forced many to confront uncomfortable questions about violence, justice, and faith in America today. This raw, unfiltered conversation explores the profound emotional impact such events have on us as individuals and as a society.When political violence strikes, the natural human impulse toward vengeance collides with deeper spiritual teachings about forgiveness and love. We navigate this tension through personal stories of processing grief, anger, and fear in the aftermath of witnessing someone's death. One host shares how this may have been "the worst day of my life so far," revealing the isolation felt even when surrounded by loved ones who couldn't fully understand the depth of his disturbance.The discussion examines the biblical framework for understanding justice and punishment, particularly for Christians who must reconcile Christ's teachings about loving enemies with the reality of evil in the world. Can capital punishment be just while still rejecting the celebration of anyone's death? How do we maintain our humanity when confronted with inhumanity?We also analyze the media landscape surrounding such events, from Jimmy Kimmel's show going on hiatus after controversial comments to sophisticated propaganda designed to manipulate emotions and sow division. Learning to filter information has never been more crucial as false narratives spread faster than truth.Throughout these difficult topics, we find glimmers of hope. One host shares how the tragedy led him to appreciate his wife more deeply, spending extra time each night holding her with gratitude that "Charlie doesn't get to do that." This reminder to cherish what matters most offers a path forward through troubled times.Join us for this thought-provoking conversation about finding our way through darkness without becoming what we despise. Support the show
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Is This Who We've Become?
Send us a textThe assassination of Charlie Kirk marks a dark moment in American political discourse, where words were met with bullets rather than debate. In this raw, emotional episode recorded just hours after the shooting, we process our shock and grief while examining the disturbing implications for free speech and democracy.The tragedy at Utah Valley University wasn't just the murder of a conservative commentator – it represents an attack on the very foundation of how we resolve differences in a democratic society. We analyze the available footage showing the shooter positioned on a nearby rooftop, discuss eyewitness accounts, and express concern over the manhunt for the perpetrator who remained at large when we recorded.What makes this event particularly troubling is the immediate polarized response. While many Americans from across the political spectrum condemned the violence, social media revealed disturbing celebrations of Kirk's death. We wrestle with the moral implications of such reactions and what they say about our collective humanity. "They killed the dude who was always against violence as a means of resolving disagreements."In these divided times, we must remember that political differences, however passionate, cannot justify violence. As we close with reflections on faith and legacy, we're reminded of Kirk's own words about how he wished to be remembered – for the courage of his convictions and his faith. Join us for this somber but necessary conversation about where we go from here. Attorneys For Freedom Law FirmAttorneys For Freedom Law Firm: Attorneys on Retainer ProgramPodpageWith Podpage, you can build a beautiful podcast website in 5 minutes (or less).The Mick and Pat HQCheck out our website.AudibleSignup for your free 30-day trial of Audible now & get your first book for free!Karl Casey a.k.a. White Bat AudioMusic by Karl Casey @WhiteBatAudioPrimary ArmsPrimary Arms is who we trust for our firearm related purchases!Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show
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The Mick & Pat Show - Who Killed Truth?
Send us a textWhen discussing the Jeffrey Epstein case, a palpable frustration emerges over what appears to be systemic protection of powerful figures at the expense of victims. The hosts articulate what many Americans feel—a growing disillusionment with institutions that seem increasingly unwilling to pursue justice when it might implicate the elite. This isn't merely conspiracy theorizing but a reasonable response to official narratives that continuously shift and contradict established facts.The housing crisis receives careful examination through personal examples that highlight how dramatically the American Dream has changed. Homes that once represented attainable stability for middle-class families have transformed into financial fortresses accessible only to the wealthy. What's particularly striking is how this conversation connects economic realities to broader questions about national identity and values—who are we becoming when basic stability requires extraordinary resources?Public land management, tariffs, and the possibilities of re-industrialization round out a discussion that defies easy political categorization. There's nuanced consideration of government funding models, environmental concerns, and what a sustainable American future might require. Throughout, the hosts maintain a refreshingly honest perspective that acknowledges complexity without succumbing to cynicism.For listeners concerned about the direction of American society, this episode offers both sobering analysis and cautious hope. The challenges are substantial, but so is the human capacity for resilience and renewal—much like the survivors in King's fictional pandemic. Join us for a conversation that might change how you view our current moment and the choices that lie ahead.What topic resonated most with you? Share your thoughts and continue the conversation with us online. Attorneys For Freedom Law FirmAttorneys For Freedom Law Firm: Attorneys on Retainer ProgramPodpageWith Podpage, you can build a beautiful podcast website in 5 minutes (or less).The Mick and Pat HQCheck out our website.AudibleSignup for your free 30-day trial of Audible now & get your first book for free!Karl Casey a.k.a. White Bat AudioMusic by Karl Casey @WhiteBatAudioPrimary ArmsPrimary Arms is who we trust for our firearm related purchases!Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show
Hey, Kin! Welcome to "The Mick & Pat Show," your home for candid discussions that explore the many layers of life's tapestry. We're Mick and Pat, two guys who are a lot like you—balancing work, family, and the complexities of modern existence.--Who Are We? We're two modest guys incredibly fortunate to have life partners who find our idiosyncrasies endearing. Mick enjoys the analytical side of things—like diving deep into data sets and puzzling out complex policies. Pat, on the other hand, revels in life's big questions and spiritual intricacies, often finding solace and wonder in philosophy and faith.--What Do We Discuss? Our podcast serves up a rich menu of topics, from probing political debates and the latest in AI to crisp beer reviews and deep dives into pop culture. We're not shy about fatherhood, relationships, and the human experience either—expect the raw and the real.--Why Listen to Us? Think of us as the friends you didn't know you needed. We deliver the goods: no-nonsense conversations laced with insight, debate, and of course, laughs by the barrelful.--Where Can You Find Us? We're broadcasting to all major podcast platforms from a hidden valley in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado.--When Do We Air? New episodes drop like hotcakes every Tuesday morning, ensuring your week starts off with substance (and maybe a little nonsense).--Got a burning question or a beer you want reviewed? Don't hesitate to reach out.Pull up a chair, tap into our conversations, and let's make sense of this wild ride called life together.