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Guy Adami interviews Cameron Dawson of NewEdge Wealth about growing scrutiny of the AI trade, arguing hyperscalers’ AI CapEx is diluting legacy high ROIC businesses and that “neo cloud” returns may not clear a higher cost of capital, potentially pressuring ROIC further. They discuss why markets are reacting now, tying it to both AI revenue-growth deceleration and a broader shift in risk appetite as higher rates drive rotations into defensives (utilities, staples, insurance) and away from cyclicals like banks. Dawson breaks down bank cyclicality across lending, investment banking, and trading, noting weak IPO/issuance signals despite still-healthy loan fundamentals. They debate whether falling yields reflect attractive rates or AI fundamentals, implications for earnings revisions and wealth effects in an “over-equitized” household sector, rising CCC spreads and private-credit concerns, subdued gold after a blow-off top, and Dawson’s view that higher rates are here to stay.

Show Notes

(Golden) Eye of the Bondholder (NewEdge)

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Dan Nathan hosts Damien Lewke, CEO and founder of AI-native cybersecurity company Nebulock. Lewke recounts his career from nation-state defense at Northrop Grumman to CrowdStrike, Palo Alto Networks, MIT research in NLP, and leading AI detections at Arctic Wolf. They discuss how the threat surface has expanded with distributed environments and how the ChatGPT moment accelerated both defensive usability and offensive capability. Lewke explains Nebulock’s “hunt-first” mission to give any team machine-speed detection and response, positioning it across converging markets like SIEM, MDR, AI SOC, and insider threat/UEBA. The conversation covers enterprise AI adoption, supply-chain risk, investor perceptions following “Mythos” breach disclosures and agent security as insider risk.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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Guy Adami welcomes Mike Tracey, Vice President of Risk at Apex Fintech Solutions, to discuss how credit and debt markets are increasingly driving equity action, with bond volatility and elevated yields pressuring the AI CapEx trade now funded more by debt. They examine revenue-whisper risk around OpenAI and Anthropic and describe Oracle as a tracking stock for OpenAI expectations, given its dependence on data-center buildouts. Despite the S&P 500 near highs and a VIX around 16, they argue dispersion and rotation are masking risk and that investors should watch more targeted measures like VXN and SMH volatility. The conversation highlights cybersecurity as a major “unknown unknown,” the fragility of hyperscaler CapEx “sanctity,” gold’s appeal amid persistent deficits, uninspiring Bitcoin flows, risks from short-vol positioning, and potential market impacts from midterm-election surprises and Middle East escalation feeding into inflation, yields, and corporate debt.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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On the RiskReversal Podcast, Dan Nathan interviews David Rosenberg (aka Rosie) about the CPI report, Fed policy, and what Rosenberg views as an AI-driven market “mania” and one-trick-pony economy. Rosenberg says the latest core CPI print is disappointing but argues inflation is being driven largely by energy-related supply shocks, with weakening real wages, slowing real spending, cracking housing, stable money growth, and range-bound inflation expectations. He warns the Fed’s hawkish pivot risks a consumer-led recession, and highlights extreme market concentration, deteriorating breadth, negative equity risk premium, and heavy household equity exposure as signs of fragility reminiscent of 1999. The conversation also covers AI capex crowding out broader investment, cracks in credit-sensitive sectors, and Rosenberg’s new book, Bear in the Bull Ring, whose proceeds he donates to charity.

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Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Dan Nathan welcomes Deirdre Bosa to the Okay, Computer podcast to discuss her upcoming daily Yahoo Finance show, “Deirdre Bosa Live,” launching November 9 and airing weekdays 1–2 PM PT. They dig into how Microsoft has shifted Copilot toward a model-agnostic approach—routing tasks to the most cost-effective models amid open-source commoditization—while also launching its Maia 300 custom AI chip to manage supply and spending uncertainty. The conversation touches on Meta’s product-driven resurgence, enterprise adoption dynamics, and investor concerns about AI infrastructure capex and debt. They compare emerging personal AI assistants (Muse, Instinct, and OpenAI “Dot”), emphasizing utility, branding, and trust/security as prerequisites for broader adoption, with Apple and identity layers like 1Password seen as potential catalysts. They close on China’s low-cost, high-volume token usage pressuring global pricing and shaping open-source competition.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.