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Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics

Regina Nuzzo and Kristin Sainani
Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics
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  • Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics

    Sleep and Exercise: Does working out on too little sleep speed up aging?

    05/04/2026 | 1h 6 mins.
    Can exercise actually be bad for you if you don’t get enough sleep? A widely shared claim says yes—that working out while sleep deprived may speed up aging. In this episode, we put that claim under the microscope. We examine the study behind it, unpack how sleep and aging were measured, and explore key statistical ideas like interaction effects and flexible models that can “dance” to the data. With the help of a $400,000 handbag and a man with seven boats, we also break down what it really takes to show that one variable changes the effect of another. What we find: some clear study bloopers, inconsistent modeling results, and interpretations that are flat-out wrong. 

    Statistical topics
    Measurement error 
    Model specification
    Piecewise linear regression
    Regression models
    Residual confounding
    Splines
    Statistical interactions
    Survey design

    Methodological morals
    “Before you believe something shocking, ask what had to go wrong to make it true.”
    “If slight modeling changes flip the story, there wasn't much story to begin with.”
    “Unethical Life Pro Tip: If you do not want your analysis critiqued, then just make it impossible to understand.”
    Kristin’s Biological Age Calculator

    References

    Original Viral Tweet: Ng D. "People who slept under 6 hours and exercised actually aged faster." X. March 9, 2026.
    Holmer B. Does exercise “age you faster” if you don’t sleep enough? Medium. March 16, 2026.
    You Y. Chen Y. Liu R., et al. Inverted U-shaped relationship between sleep duration and phenotypic age in US adults: a population-based study. Sci Rep. 2024;14:6247. 
    Levine ME, Lu AT, Quach A, et al. An epigenetic biomarker of aging for lifespan and healthspan. Aging. 2018;10:573-591. 

    Kristin and Regina’s online courses: 

    Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding  
    Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis 
    Medical Statistics Certificate Program  
    Writing in the Sciences 
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 
    Programs that we teach in:
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 

    Find us on:
    Kristin -  LinkedIn & Twitter/X
    Regina - LinkedIn & ReginaNuzzo.com

    (00:00) - Introduction

    (04:05) - What is NHANES?

    (06:38) - The Sleep Duration Results

    (12:50) - The 2015 Sleep Mystery

    (17:10) - Measuring Biological Aging

    (22:32) - The Penalized Cox Regression

    (29:13) - Sleep and Aging Results

    (31:00) - Cubic Splines and Dancing

    (38:08) - Adding Exercise to the Mix

    (42:16) - Boats, Handbags, and Interaction Effects

    (49:39) - The Cubic Spline Exercise Analysis

    (52:40) - The Opposite Result

    (57:13) - Academic Writing Gone Wrong

    (59:46) - The Writing Makeover

    (01:02:31) - Rating the Claim with Gatorinis
  • Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics

    Sex Recession: Are young people really having less sex?

    04/20/2026 | 1h 8 mins.
    Are young people really having less sex? Headlines about a “sex recession” suggest a dramatic decline—but what do the data actually show? In this episode, we trace that claim back to the research behind it—and find a story that’s far more nuanced than the headlines suggest. We examine large national surveys, including the General Social Survey and the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior, and uncover how small analytical choices can completely change the story. Along the way, we tackle ordinal versus quantitative data, why averages can mislead, how logistic regression reframes the question, and what happens when researchers try to time-travel with statistics. Plus: the surprising role of extreme values, why “eight fewer sexual encounters per year” may not mean what you think, and whether young men and women are really following the same trends.

    Statistical topics

    Average vs distribution
    Binary variables
    Effect size vs statistical significance
    Logistic regression
    Measurement / operationalization
    Ordinal variables
    Outliers / extreme values
    Self-reported datagoog
    Social desirability bias
    Variable coding / transformation

    Methodological morals

    “You shouldn't use data from people in their 80s to guess what they were doing in their 20s unless your data come with a time machine.”
    “When extreme values drive the average, the average stops describing most people.”

    References

    Julian K. Why are young people having so little sex? The Atlantic. December 2018. Accessed April 19, 2026. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/
    Skwarecki B. Nearly half of Gen Z adults have never had sex: report. Newsweek. January 7, 2025. Accessed April 19, 2026. https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-of-gen-z-adults-have-never-had-sexreport-11052178
    Virginity survey. DatingAdvice.com. Accessed April 19, 2026. https://www.datingadvice.com/studies/virginity-survey
    Twenge JM, Sherman RA, Wells BE. Declines in sexual frequency among American adults, 1989-2014. Arch Sex Behav. 2017;46(8):2389-2401.
    Ueda P, Mercer CH, Ghaznavi C, Herbenick D. Trends in frequency of sexual activity and number of sexual partners among adults aged 18 to 44 years in the US, 2000-2018. JAMA Netw Open. 2020;3(6):e203833.
    Herbenick D, Rosenberg M, Golzarri-Arroyo L, et al. Changes in penile-vaginal intercourse frequency and sexual repertoire from 2009 to 2018: findings from the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior. Arch Sex Behav. 2022;51(3):1419-1433.
    Wellings K, Palmer MJ, Machiyama K, Slaymaker E. Changes in, and factors associated with, frequency of sex in Britain: evidence from three National Surveys of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles (Natsal). BMJ. 2019;365:l1525. Published 2019 May 7. doi:10.1136/bmj.l1525
    Burghardt J, Beutel ME, Hasenburg A, Schmutzer G, Brähler E. Declining Sexual Activity and Desire in Women: Findings from Representative German Surveys 2005 and 2016. Arch Sex Behav. 2020 Apr;49(3):919-925. doi: 10.1007/s10508-019-01525-9. Epub 2019 Dec 4. Erratum in: Arch Sex Behav. 2020 Apr;49(3):927. doi: 10.1007/s10508-019-01622-9. PMID: 31802290.
    Twenge JM. Possible Reasons US Adults Are Not Having Sex as Much as They Used To. JAMA Netw Open. 2020;3(6):e203889. Published 2020 Jun 1. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2020.3889

    Kristin and Regina’s online courses: 

    Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding  
    Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis 
    Medical Statistics Certificate Program  
    Writing in the Sciences 
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 
    Programs that we teach in:
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 

    Find us on:
    Kristin -  LinkedIn & Twitter/X
    Regina - LinkedIn & ReginaNuzzo.com

    (00:00) - Introduction

    (04:04) - Fact-Checking the Headlines

    (07:37) - The Twenge Study and the GSS

    (16:02) - The Hill-Shaped Trend

    (19:23) - The Ordinal Variable Problem

    (24:59) - The Married vs. Never-Married Paradox

    (28:39) - Time-Traveling to the 1920s

    (32:35) - The Ueda Study: A Better Approach

    (36:22) - The Two Classrooms

    (43:39) - What Counts as Sex?

    (50:49) - Historical Sex Terms

    (54:32) - The Sexual Repertoire Results

    (57:50) - Why Is This Happening?

    (01:04:09) - Rating the Claim
  • Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics

    Diagnostic Testing: Do the stats tell you what you need to know?

    04/06/2026 | 1h 8 mins.
    Diagnostic testing: what do those statistics actually tell you? Sensitivity, specificity, positive predictive value . . . you’ve probably seen these terms before. Maybe you memorized them for a test. But do you actually know what they mean? In this episode, we take a closer look at how diagnostic tests are evaluated—and how they’re often misinterpreted. From a genetic test for cellulite to a blood test for autism, we explore how “statistically significant” findings can turn into tests that don’t actually help anyone. Along the way we meet the freckle gene, the wanderlust gene, and infidelity gene.

    Statistical topics
    Base Rate
    Bayes Rule
    Case-Control Study
    Matching
    Conditional Probability
    Sensitivity
    Specificity
    Positive Predictive Value
    Prevalence
    Negative Predictive Value
    False Positives and Negatives
    True Positives and Negatives

    Methodological morals
    “A biomarker paper is not the same thing as a biomarker test.”
    “If your sample doesn't match the real world, then for all of your positive predictive value needs, call on Bayes' theorem.”

    Detailed Show Notes with calculations

    References
    Emanuele E, Bertona M, Geroldi D. A multilocus candidate approach identifies ACE and HIF1A as susceptibility genes for cellulite. Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology and Venereology; 2010. 24: 930-35. 
    https://genomelink.io/traits/cellulite
    https://www.genexdiagnostics.com/ 
    Ebstein RP, Novick O, Umansky R, et al. Dopamine D4 receptor (D4DR) exon III polymorphism associated with the human personality trait of Novelty Seeking. Nat Genet. 1996;12:78-80. 
    Kluger AN, Siegfried Z, Ebstein RP. A meta-analysis of the association between DRD4 polymorphism and novelty seeking. Mol Psychiatry. 2002;7:712-7.
    He Y, Martin N, Zhu G, Liu Y. Candidate genes for novelty-seeking: a meta-analysis of association studies of DRD4 exon III and COMT Val158Met. Psychiatr Genet. 2018 Dec;28(6):97-109. 
    Smith AM, King JJ, West PR, et al. Amino Acid Dysregulation Metabotypes: Potential Biomarkers for Diagnosis and Individualized Treatment for Subtypes of Autism Spectrum Disorder. Biol Psychiatry. 2019;85:345-54.
    Sainani K, Goodman S. Lack of Diagnostic Utility of “Amino Acid Dysregulation Metabotypes.”
    Biol Psychiatry. 2018; 85: e41-e42.

    Kristin and Regina’s online courses
    Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding  
    Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis 
    Medical Statistics Certificate Program  
    Writing in the Sciences 
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 
    Programs that we teach in:
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 

    Find us on:
    Kristin -  LinkedIn & Twitter/X
    Regina - LinkedIn & ReginaNuzzo.com

    (00:00) - Introduction

    (02:24) - The Cellulite Test

    (06:41) - Understanding Sensitivity and Specificity

    (12:50) - Enter Positive Predictive Value

    (18:40) - Why Base Rates Matter

    (24:06) - More Ridiculous Tests

    (33:30) - The Wanderlust Gene Deep Dive

    (41:27) - The NeuroPoint Autism Test

    (53:34) - Trying to Set the Record Straight

    (01:02:39) - Personal Stories

    (01:05:54) - Wrap-up
  • Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics

    Epidurals: Are labor epidurals really linked to autism?

    03/23/2026 | 1h 10 mins.
    Epidurals are widely used and widely trusted for pain relief during labor. So when a 2020 study reported that they might be linked to autism, it raised a troubling question: could a routine medical decision have long-term consequences? We follow that claim from headline to evidence—and watch what happens when other scientists take a closer look. We dig into the original study, a wave of replication studies from around the world, and a meta-analysis that tries to make sense of it all. Along the way, we unpack hazard ratios, Cox regression, inverse probability weighting, and sibling analyses—and why even sophisticated statistical adjustment can’t eliminate confounding. Plus: why bigger datasets don’t solve everything, what happens when results shrink after adjustment, and how a controversial study turned into a case study in science working as it should. Bonus: our first guest journalist interview!

    Statistical topics
    Confounding
    Cox regression
    Hazard ratios
    Inverse probability weighting (IPTW)
    Multivariable adjustment
    Observational studies
    Residual confounding
    Retrospective cohort studies
    Sibling analysis
    Statistical adjustment
    Statistical significance vs practical significance
    Survival analysis

    Methodological morals
    “Every time you adjust the model and the effect gets smaller, that's the universe whispering, maybe don't build a causal story out of this.”
    “Consistency across studies is gold.”
    “There's more to the story than the statistics.”

    References

    Dattaro, Laura. A questionable study linked autism to epidurals. Then what? Spectrum. April 18, 2023. 
    Dattaro, Laura. How to find baby sharks. Nautilus. September 9. 2024.
    Laura Dattaro’s home page.
    Phil Kearney’s blog post about the SMART framework.
    Qiu C, Lin JC, Shi JM, et al. Association Between Epidural Analgesia During Labor and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders in Offspring. JAMA Pediatr. 2020;174:1168-1175. 
    Joint Statement. Labor Epidurals Do Not Cause Autism; Safe for Mothers and Infants, say Anesthesiology, Obstetrics, and Pediatric Medical Societies. American Society of Anesthesiologists. October 12, 2020.
    Wall-Wieler E, Bateman BT, Hanlon-Dearman A, Roos LL, Butwick AJ. Association of Epidural Labor Analgesia With Offspring Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders. JAMA Pediatr. 2021;175:698-705. 
    Christakis DA. More on epidurals and autism. JAMA Pediatrics. 2021; 175: 705.
    Mikkelsen AP, Greiber IK, Scheller NM, Lidegaard Ø. Association of Labor Epidural Analgesia With Autism Spectrum Disorder in Children. JAMA. 2021;326:1170–1177. 
    Hanley GE, Bickford C, Ip A, et al. Association of Epidural Analgesia During Labor and Delivery With Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring. JAMA. 2021;326:1178-1185. 
    Hegvik TA, Klungsøyr K, Kuja-Halkola R, et al. Labor epidural analgesia and subsequent risk of offspring autism spectrum disorder and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder: a cross-national cohort study of 4.5 million individuals and their siblings. Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2023;228:233.e1-233.e12. Epub 2022 Aug 13. Hu X, Wang B, Chen J, Han D, Wu J. 
    Association Between Epidural Labor Analgesia and Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. J Pain Res;17:227-240. 

    Kristin and Regina’s online courses: 
    Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding  
    Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis 
    Medical Statistics Certificate Program  
    Writing in the Sciences 
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 
    Programs that we teach in:
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 

    Find us on:
    Kristin -  LinkedIn & Twitter/X
    Regina - LinkedIn & ReginaNuzzo.com

    (00:00) - Intro

    (01:40) - Why autism is hard to study

    (05:18) - The original 2020 study

    (11:38) - Results & hazard ratios

    (15:24) - Confounding & adjustment

    (27:29) - Criticism & plausibility

    (35:08) - Replications begin

    (45:57) - Converging evidence & meta-analysis

    (52:07) - What does it mean?

    (54:57) - Guest & wrap-up
  • Normal Curves: Sexy Science, Serious Statistics

    Daylight Saving Time: Does springing forward cause heart attacks?

    03/09/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    Every year we spring forward and lose an hour of sleep. But do we also lose a few heart cells? Some headlines claim that heart attacks spike by 24% after daylight saving time begins. In this episode we trace that number back to the research behind it—and what we find is more complicated than the headlines suggest. We examine a famous New England Journal of Medicine letter, a large international meta-analysis, and a massive modern U.S. registry study. Along the way we talk about incidence ratios, relative versus absolute risk, negative controls, and a haunting concept called harvesting. Plus: why bar charts are not for numerical data, why journalists love dramatic numbers, and how a bug collector helped invent daylight saving time.

    Statistical topics
    Incidence ratios / incidence rates
    Meta-analysis
    Negative controls
    Relative risk vs absolute risk
    Statistical vs practical significance
    Statistical Sleuthing

    Methodological morals
    “A bump in time isn’t always a bump in total.” 
    “If you already know the story you want to tell, you can always find a number to tell it.”  

    References
    Bourke, India. “An obsessed insect hunter: The creepy-crawly origins of daylight saving.” BBC Future, March 31, 2024. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240308-how-first-suggestions-of-daylight-savings-time-was-inspired-by-insects
    Fox-Skelly, Jasmin. “How Daylight Saving Time Affects Your Health.” BBC Future, October 25, 2025. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251024-how-daylight-saving-time-affects-our-health
    Hurst A, Morfeld P, Lewis P, Erren TC. Daylight Saving Time Transitions and Risk of Heart Attack. Dtsch Arztebl Int. 2024;121(15):490-496. doi:10.3238/arztebl.m2024.0078
    Janszky I, Ljung R. Shifts to and from daylight saving time and incidence of myocardial infarction. N Engl J Med. 2008;359(18):1966-1968. doi:10.1056/NEJMc0807104
    Jiddou MR, Pica M, Boura J, Qu L, Franklin BA. Incidence of myocardial infarction with shifts to and from daylight savings time. Am J Cardiol. 2013;111(5):631-635. doi:10.1016/j.amjcard.2012.11.010
    Mellour, Richard. “The builder who changed how the world keeps time.” BBC Future, March 11, 2016. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160310-the-builder-who-changed-how-the-world-keeps-time
    Rymer JA, Li S, Chiswell K, et al. Daylight Savings Time and Acute Myocardial Infarction. JAMA Netw Open. 2025;8(9):e2530442. Published 2025 Sep 2. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2025.30442
    https://graph2table.com/

    Kristin and Regina’s online courses: 

    Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding  
    Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis 
    Medical Statistics Certificate Program  
    Writing in the Sciences 
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 
    Programs that we teach in:
    Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program 

    Find us on:
    Kristin -  LinkedIn & Twitter/X
    Regina - LinkedIn & ReginaNuzzo.com

    (00:00) - Intro

    (05:03) - Strange history of daylight saving time

    (16:06) - Swedish NEJM study

    (19:14) - Incidence ratios explained

    (22:13) - What the Swedish study actually found

    (31:11) - Absolute vs relative risk

    (34:27) - Harvesting effect

    (40:10) - 2024 Meta-analysis

    (45:37) - Large modern US study

    (55:23) - Where the “24% increase” came from

    (59:16) - Wrap-up

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Normal Curves is a podcast about sexy science & serious statistics. Ever try to make sense of a scientific study and the numbers behind it? Listen in to a lively conversation between two stats-savvy friends who break it all down with humor and clarity. Professors Regina Nuzzo of Gallaudet University and Kristin Sainani of Stanford University discuss academic papers journal club-style — except with more fun, less jargon, and some irreverent, PG-13 content sprinkled in. Join Kristin and Regina as they dissect the data, challenge the claims, and arm you with tools to assess scientific studies on your own.
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