Nightmare Success In and Out

What happens when you’re five days away from Marine Corps basic training—and instead begin a nearly 12-year fight for freedom?
Lathan Word joins Brent Cassity on Nightmare Success In and Out to share his wrongful conviction story. Sentenced to 15 years for an armed robbery he didn’t commit, Lathan refused to plead guilty and began studying the law behind bars. Years later, the witness against him admitted he had been lying—and Lathan finally walked free.
Lathan opens up about surviving prison violence, losing loved ones, finding strength through faith, and rebuilding after exoneration. We also discuss his memoir, Surviving the Curse: One False Move, and his work helping others through Right Your Conviction.
His message: When you find your way out of the maze, go back and show someone else the exit.
Learn more about Lathan and his book: lathanword.com
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Pierre Rogers rose from childhood poverty to become one of the youngest senior vice presidents at Columbia Management, Bank of America’s asset-management division. By age 30, he had achieved his dream of owning a home and a Ferrari—but success, money and ambition came with a cost.
After leaving institutional finance to become a technology entrepreneur, Pierre became involved in a federal case connected to fraudulent PPP loan applications. He received a 42-month sentence at Federal Correctional Complex Lompoc.
In this revealing conversation with Brent Cassity, Pierre discusses the frightening call that changed his life, the role his ego played in his rise, the wife who stood beside him and the system he created to keep prison from defining him. He also explains why serving others became part of his healing and how his upcoming book, Built by Failures, challenges us to see failure as something that can rebuild us.
Can the worst failure of your life become the experience that finally reveals who you were meant to be?
Learn more about Pierre and Built by Failures at BuiltByFailures.com.
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He was known as the "King of Torts"—one of America's most powerful trial lawyers, who helped take on Big Tobacco in historic multibillion-dollar litigation. Then came a federal investigation, a guilty plea, and a six-year federal prison sentence.
What happens when a man who seemingly had everything loses his freedom, reputation, and purpose?
In this revealing conversation on Nightmare Success In and Out, host Brent Cassity sits down with legendary Mississippi attorney Richard "Dickie" Scruggs for a rare interview about extraordinary success, devastating failure, surviving federal prison, and discovering a new reason to get up every morning.
From his college nickname "Zeus" and flying Navy fighter jets to representing thousands of asbestos victims, battling tobacco companies, and taking on insurance companies after Hurricane Katrina, Scruggs lived an extraordinary life before everything changed.
But the most inspiring chapter may have come afterward.
While incarcerated, Dickie discovered a renewed sense of purpose teaching math and helping fellow inmates earn their GEDs. That experience eventually inspired Second Chance Mississippi, his nonprofit helping adults pursue education, workforce training, and better opportunities.
Dickie opens up about life behind prison walls, the importance of family, rebuilding after public disgrace, and why helping others has become one of the most meaningful accomplishments of his life.
This isn't just a story about the fall of the King of Torts. It's a story about what happens when you refuse to let your worst chapter become your final chapter.
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The prison gates open. But does the sentence really end?
Jeff Grant and Drew Chapin join Brent Cassity to explore the lasting consequences of a white collar conviction—from career barriers and damaged reputations to isolation and the emotional weight of starting over.
They reveal why the White Collar Support Group has become a lifeline before, during, and after prison—and how connection helps people rebuild meaningful lives.
This episode previews the October 10 White Collar Conference, “Ending the White Collar Life Sentence,” featuring keynote speakers Josh Smith, former Deputy Director of the Bureau of Prisons who also served a federal prison sentence, and former attorney Dickie Scruggs, known as the “King of Torts.” Scruggs joins Brent for a fireside conversation about his criminal justice journey.
The conference also explores rebuilding careers, pardons, federal expungement advocacy, and reclaiming your story in the age of AI.
A powerful conversation about accountability, belonging, and second chances. Every sentence should have a period.
Conference information: https://whitecollarconference.com

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William “Bill” Noguera was 18 years old when he committed a murder he neither minimizes nor excuses. Sentenced to death, he would spend approximately 42 years incarcerated—but behind the walls of San Quentin, Bill began rebuilding his identity through accountability, education, service, and art.
Working from a prison cell, he became an internationally acclaimed, award-winning artist and the author of Escape Artist. He also created Death Row Diaries, mentored other prisoners, and developed a rare understanding of criminal behavior.
Bill later spent years earning the trust of convicted serial killer Joseph Naso, documenting more than 300 pages of conversations about potential victims and unsolved murders. After contacting cold-case investigator Ken Mains, their extraordinary partnership became the foundation for Oxygen and Peacock’s Death Row Confidential: Secrets of a Serial Killer. Bill tells that story in his award-winning book, Through the Lens of a Monster.
Now free after more than four decades, Bill joins Brent Cassity to discuss his childhood, crime, death sentence, artistic transformation, cold-case work, release, and the difficult meaning of genuine rehabilitation. It is a remarkable conversation about owning irreversible harm while choosing to make the life that remains mean something.
WILLIAM NOGUERA'S BOOKS
📕 Through the Lens of a Monster⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FGGYJZ9B⁠
📘 Escape Artist⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0HG7QV2SK

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