Blurry Creatures

Chad Hayes and his brother Carey wrote The Conjuring—a film with no sex, no blood, and two Christians as the heroes. It became one of the highest-grossing horror films of all time. What most people don't know is that the supernatural events didn't stop when the cameras turned off. Strange voices interrupted phone calls with Lorraine Warren. Objects moved on their own in the artifacts room. Chad's son fled the set after something started operating by itself in the dark. And that was just the beginning.In this episode, Chad shares what Lorraine Warren was really like, the moment on set when she walked up to a crew member and knew exactly what was tormenting him, and why he's spent the last two decades chasing true stories of demonic confrontation, from a possessed man chained to a wall in India to the haunted LaLaurie House in New Orleans where something pounded on a grown man's chest in the middle of the night. Chad opens up about all of it, plus his upcoming projects, why he believes the best horror movies are really love stories, and why he only tells stories where the devil loses.

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Halloween night, 2001. A blue moon hangs over Virginia, a celestial event so rare it only occurs a handful of times per century. Seth, a young man wrestling with his faith and freshly removed from Liberty University, decides on a whim to drive out to the Blue Ridge Parkway alone. No plan, no destination, just a quiet stretch of road under a perfect, cloudless sky. He pulls into an empty turnout, not a single car in sight, and figures, why not take a night hike? The trail is short, the visibility through the trees is crystal clear, and he settles onto a bench to take in the stillness. That's when the silence becomes unnatural. No insects. No wind. Nothing, until the snapping of twigs begins circling him from the darkness.

Back at his car, things escalate. Pinging sounds strike the steel frame of his 1970 Chevy Bel Air like pine cones being hurled from the void. The tree line ahead begins shifting, figures standing where there were none before. And on the grass median to his left, flat shapes appear like blankets tossed on the ground, cloaked and hooded but with no depth, no hands, no faces. Each time Seth looks away and back, they've moved closer. Then comes the flickering, a light sparking where a face should be, like a Bic lighter that can't hold a flame. Seth has never been able to find another account like this, and we try to unpack it through the lens of his testimony, childhood trauma, spiritual access, and the strange convergence of a once-in-a-generation night.

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Timothy Alberino is back in the basement, and this time the conversation is pointed. With the release of the documentary Age of Disclosure and a Spielberg film on the horizon, the UFO topic is no longer fringe. It's congressional. It's mainstream. And according to Tim, it's something the Church desperately needs to engage with rather than dismiss. He breaks down the difference between contactees and abductees, why the "it's all demons" explanation doesn't hold up under scrutiny, and what's really going on with the Collins Elite, a group of evangelical Christians inside the Pentagon actively working to block disclosure because they believe the phenomenon is satanic deception.Tim isn't here to mince words. He's here to challenge the reflexive skepticism that has paralyzed so many believers. Crash retrievals are real. Biological bodies have been recovered. And there are people inside the government fighting to bring oversight to programs that have operated in the shadows for decades, programs tied to black budgets, human experimentation, and worse. He talks about his conversations with Lou Elizondo, decades of reverse engineering programs, and why so many believers have slipped into what he calls "conspiracy psychosis," a state where even if the government started telling the truth, no one would believe it. The deception is coming, Tim says. But it's not the existence of gray aliens. It's the message. And if your roots go deep in the gospel, you don't need to be afraid of the facts.

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It's 2009 in Fairview, North Carolina. Two teenage cousins are hanging out in a treehouse ten feet off the ground, stereo playing Elton John's "Benny and the Jets" into the cool fall night. Then, right around the third "Benny," time seems to stop. A massive finger, easily twelve inches long and covered in matted gray-brown fur with a thick black talon, slides through the cracks in the floorboards. Not frantically. Methodically. Back and forth. Whatever was attached to that finger was standing on the ground below, which means this thing had to be enormous. The boys froze, paralyzed by a fear Blake describes as primordial. Something deep in his DNA telling him there was no escape, no fight, just freeze and hope.But that's just the beginning. Blake's story opens up into a lifetime of strange encounters across the Carolina mountains: precognitive dreams that run in his Cherokee family line, a UFO sighting that vanished the moment it knew it was being watched, and a bizarre vision of a Native American chief named Timbo that he never went looking for. We dig into what makes North Carolina such a thin place, the connection between curiosity and intelligence in these creatures, and why Blake believes these encounters, terrifying as they are, have only deepened his walk with Christ. This one's got Bigfoot, orbs, little people lore, and a whole lot of Appalachian strangeness.

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What if the entire goal of the gospel isn't to escape earth but to bring heaven crashing into it? One of the greatest living theologians, author of over 80 books, former Bishop of Durham, and a scholar whose work has shaped how millions understand Paul and the early church, N.T. Wright sat down with us to talk about his new book, The Vision of Ephesians.  We delve deeply into Paul's letter to Ephesus, which is filled with the kind of cosmic, spiritual warfare content that most churches tend to gloss over.  Tom walks us through what it actually means to be "seated in heavenly places" while simultaneously engaged in battle against principalities and powers. We talk demons, the rapture, and the weird stuff in Scripture that most pastors skip over.  He explains why the armor of God is mostly defensive—and why the one offensive weapon, the sword of the Spirit, isn't the Bible as we think of it, but the announced word that Jesus is Lord. As we further explore Ephesians, Wright contends that Paul's letter is the "room with a view" in his writings—a place where you can stand back and see the whole cosmic picture of what God is doing. And that picture isn't about escaping earth for heaven. It's about heaven and earth crashing together, with Jesus at the center and his people caught up in the collision. Tom traces how ancient philosophy and Enlightenment thinking convinced the Western church that God is far away and our job is to wait for extraction—and why that reading makes nonsense of Genesis, the Sermon on the Mount, and Revelation.But this conversation isn't just theological theory. Tom opens up about personal encounters with spiritual warfare, including the time every fire alarm in the building went off the moment he stood up to lecture on Ephesians 6. He shares stories from his years overseeing diocesan exorcists as Bishop of Durham, the C.S. Lewis passage that shaped his understanding of spiritual resistance, and why both ignoring the demonic and seeing demons behind every bush are dangerous mistakes. We also get into his thoughts on the rapture and how Jesus redefined power itself through the cross. This is a masterclass in biblical theology from a living legend.

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