Episode 4: LIVE FROM DALLAS: Burnout and Avoiding the Trap of Comparison
In this special live episode of Between Sundays, recorded at the We Gather event in Dallas, Texas, our hosts—Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper—sit down with a room full of ministers and spouses for a powerful, honest conversation about life in ministry.
With wisdom drawn from decades of experience, they share insights on staying spiritually refreshed, avoiding the trap of comparison, leading through hard seasons, and embracing the sacred weight of the calling. From laughter-filled stories about road trip mishaps to deeply personal reflections on burnout, mental health, and calling, this episode is a masterclass in pastoral resilience and authenticity.
Whether you're in a season of harvest or hardship, this episode will encourage you to stay the course, remember your calling, and never lose sight of the One you're following.
If you are feeling alone or depressed, please talk to someone at the Center for Ministerial Care (https://www.centerforministerialcare.com/)
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Episode 3: The Impact of Long-Term Pastoral Ministry
In this powerful episode of Between Sundays, our hosts discuss the value and impact of long-term pastoral ministry. With nearly a century of combined experience in the same pulpits, these leaders open up about the blessings and challenges of staying rooted in one place. From reflections on spiritual passion and shepherding God’s people to avoiding the trap of celebrity culture in ministry, this episode is full of wisdom for pastors at any stage of their journey. Whether you're leading a congregation of 19 or 1,900, this conversation is a heartfelt reminder that faithfulness, not fame, is the measure of true success in ministry.
Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays @COGHQ YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ)
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Episode 2: The Call to Preach
Episode 2: The Call to Preach
In Episode 2 of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper dive into the sacred call of preaching. They explore the anointing that sets true preaching apart, sharing personal stories—like Livingston’s time with Billy Graham and Cooper’s defining call from God. The conversation tackles the balance of preparation and spontaneity, the "inescapable call" to preach, and the need for a revival of authentic gospel proclamation in today’s culture.
WePreach Conference
Central Church in Charlotte, North Carolina
2026: Dates Coming Soon
Listen to The Anointing Makes the Difference (https://youtu.be/0TPKuUvFmCk)
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Episode 1: The Calling, The Challenges, and The Journey
Episode 1: The Calling, The Challenges, and The Journey
In this debut episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston and David Cooper have an authentic conversation about the realities of life in ministry. They discuss the challenges of following a legacy leader, the significance of small beginnings, and the faithfulness required to navigate the ups and downs of pastoral life. With personal stories of stepping into the unknown, trusting God's provision, and staying committed to the call, this episode offers wisdom and encouragement for pastors and leaders at every stage of ministry.
Tune in for powerful insights, real-life experiences, and a reminder that true success in ministry is measured not by numbers, but by faithfulness to God's calling.
Join Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for candid, transparent conversations about life in ministry. This is more than sermons and church services—it's the real work of pastoring, the challenges and triumphs, the heart and soul of ministry that happens between Sundays.