The Rich Roll Podcast

Malcolm Gladwell is a journalist and bestselling author. Kenya Barris is a writer, producer, and the creator of Black-ish. Together they host the Audible Original podcast The Unusual Suspects.

This conversation explores opposite approaches to storytelling. Kenya mines his own life, while Malcolm leaves his out entirely.

We discuss Kenya's Inglewood upbringing, finding your voice, Richard Pryor walking off a Vegas stage, the $100 million Netflix deal Kenya walked away from, the shifting tectonic plates of media, and more.

These two are a treat together. Enjoy!

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Colin Kaepernick is a Super Bowl quarterback, civil rights activist, and author of the new memoir "The Perilous Fight."

Ten years after taking a knee, Colin opens up about the parts of the story we didn't see, from the death threats to the fourth-grade letter where he wrote down his future. And yes, he still trains most mornings.

Colin is undeniable. This conversation was an honor. Enjoy!

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Bryan Johnson and Kate Tolo are entrepreneurs, partners, and the subjects of the Netflix documentary "Don't Die."

This conversation explores the couple's challenge to a presupposition around our mortality.

We discuss AI, consciousness, Kate's endometriosis diagnosis, and our culture's relationship with death.

I appreciated their openness. Enjoy!

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William Goodge is a British ultra-endurance athlete who just FKT'd his Australia crossing.

In October, he runs 50 marathons in 50 states in 24 days. We get into the logistics, the strange polarity of a life spent between five-star hotels and the side of a trail, and what it's like to be doubted in public.

Will is the most aura-farming, Goodge-coded ultra mog I could possibly imagine. Enjoy!

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Dolph Lundgren is an actor, martial artist, and chemical engineer, best known as Ivan Drago in Rocky IV.

This conversation explores the distance between the man on the poster and the boy underneath: the violent childhood, the Fulbright he traded for Manhattan, the delirium of instant fame, the steroids and stunts that followed, a fatal prognosis reversed by a second opinion, and the mirror work that finally took.

He offers a quiet rebuke to everything young men are currently being sold about strength.

Dolph's still a warrior – but a peaceful warrior. Enjoy!

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