Tech Won't Save Us

No one is comfortable with police surveillance in the US, which is why there’s a bipartisan backlash to Flock cameras. Jason Koebler joins Paris Marx to discuss the rise of Flock, how their cameras are being pitched by right-wing politicians and police agencies, and how they’re being used to stalk residents from coast to coast.
Jason Koebler is a co-founder of 404 Media and co-host of the 404 Media Podcast.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.
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Here’s the latest from Jason on Flock cameras being used to track opposition to the company.
Cops are hiding their Flock camera searches behind jokes and nonesense to obscure their actions.
DeFlock is mapping flock cameras.
Have I Been Flocked? lets people see if their licence plate has been searched.
No, the anti-Flock movement isn’t Chinese propaganda.
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Hyperscale data centers are not an inevitable infrastructure, but a product of capitalist financialization pushing us further from a livable future. Ingrid Burrington interviews Paris Marx about his new book Hyperscale, discussing the history behind the rise of hyperscale data centers and how companies are obscuring their true social and environmental costs to maximize profits before the overinflated bubble bursts.
Ingrid Burrington is the author of Networks of New York and host of RIP Corp. She’s been writing about internet infrastructure for over a decade, including an 18-story online series for The Atlantic in 2015.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.
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Check out some of Ingrid’s writing.
Check out the episode where Paris chatted with Chris Carlsson.
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Data centers are being approved without proper oversight into their broader impacts, but there are organizations pushing back. Martha Dark joins Paris Marx to discuss her work at Foxglove and how legal challenges against data centers are imposing stronger rules and reframing false narratives from policymakers and Big Tech.
Martha Dark is co-executive director of Foxglove.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.
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Foxglove is pushing policymakers for stronger data center regulations.
Data centers are not creating jobs, and policymakers should stop pretending they do.
The carbon emissions from UK data center development are higher than ExxonMobil.
Shout out to the organizations Legal Resources Centre and The Housing Assembly based in South Africa
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Brazil’s renewable energy is being exploited to justify unnecessary data center construction. Laís Martins joins Paris Marx to discuss why the renewable energy sector is behind a rise in Brazilian data center development, how this is impacting communities, and the ways this greenwashing is redirecting funding away from more socially progressive projects.
Laís Martins is a technology reporter at The Intercept Brasil.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.
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Laís has written about the connection between wind energy and data center construction.
Laís has written about the social impacts of the renewable energy driven data center build out in Brazil.
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Tech companies are working with the fossil fuel industry to push unnecessary data center projects while misrepresenting the climate impact — and governments are letting it all happen. Ketan Joshi joins Paris Marx to discuss how the data center buildout is driving a surge in fossil fuel investment, and how it’s all playing out in Australia.
Ketan Joshi is a climate writer and data analyst based in Oslo working with climate and environmental groups.
The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.
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Ketan wrote a report on how Big Tech is greenwashing their destructive climate impacts.
Ketan worked with Greenpeace to put out a report on how NVIDIA is greenwashing to hide their climate impacts.
Ketan worked with Greenpeace on a report that explores how Australia’s data center buildout is completely derailing their renewable energy transition.
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