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    Ep. 69: Ogle: Most of the time you're trading against yourself

    10/03/2026 | 1h 20 mins.
    I restarted HODLong as a traders' talk and hosted Ogle as the first guest on the show.
    Show Notes
    00:00 How Ogle first got into trading as a kid
    05:17 Growing up poor and developing a complicated relationship with money
    10:52 Stepping back from public life, building companies, and returning to trading
    14:09 Why deep research comes before making meaningful investments
    18:23 The core thesis: revenue, real users, and value flowing back to token holders
    24:53 How to research founders, incentives, and whether a business can sustain its model
    27:00 Early bets vs. later entries: balancing risk, upside, and conviction
    29:41 Position sizing and the idea of a “sleeping size”
    32:19 A real-time example of resizing a position when part of a thesis breaks
    36:29 The “wrong train” mental model for cutting a losing position
    38:05 Why opportunity cost matters more than comparing investments directly
    41:19 What makes a business defensible: moats, partnerships, and distribution
    46:16 Self-worth, luck, and proving you can still perform
    50:37 Why strong founders can still lose: timing, capital, and staying close to users
    57:23 How better user experience helped reshape perpetual trading
    60:04 Why investing is easier to pivot than building a company
    61:44 Actively looking for evidence that disproves your thesis
    65:40 Turning trading lessons into durable mental models
    68:23 Ego, detachment, and why traders are often competing against themselves
    70:34 Managing liquidity risk and preserving optionality in large positions
    72:49 Social trading, signaling, and the danger of performing for an audience
    78:25 Closing thoughts: social media, visibility, and the Panopticon




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    Important Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show.

    重要声明:Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息,不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。
  • HODLong 后浪

    Ep. 68 [EN]: AG: Stay Standing and Build Long Term with StandX

    12/25/2025 | 50 mins.
    Show Notes: 

    00:00 Introduction and Background about StandX and DUSD (why build together?)
    02:15 Evolution and Challenges of on-chain DEXs
    08:15 User Needs under Current Market Dynamics
    12:32 Product Design and User Experience
    16:41 Other Perp DEXs
    21:15 Risk Management and Regulatory Environment for Perp DEXs
    24:58 Market Competition and Strategic Positioning
    30:08 User Feedback and Product Iteration
    34:18 Summary and Outlook

    X: @StandX_AG / @StandX_Official
    Website: https://standx.com/ 

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    Important Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show.

    重要声明:Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息,不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。
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    Ep. 67 [EN]: Meow: the New Chapter of Jupiverse

    12/23/2025 | 1h 51 mins.
    Show Notes: 
    00:00 The Journey of Self-Reflection
    02:41 Understanding Failure and Fear
    05:25 Defining Success and Failure
    07:56 The Role of Trust in the Industry
    10:13 Navigating the Crypto Landscape
    13:03 The Evolution of Crypto Ventures
    15:33 Lessons from Early Experiences
    17:55 The Importance of User Value
    20:44 The Impact of Market Dynamics
    23:14 Reflections on Airdrops and User Engagement
    26:01 Navigating Challenges in the Crypto Space
    29:09 The Future of Crypto and Personal Growth
    38:34 The Call for Decentralization
    41:18 Building Jupnet: A New Era in Finance
    43:59 Innovations in Authentication and Sequencing
    48:49 The Multi-Chain Future: Embracing New Opportunities
    51:06 The Role of Empathy in Leadership
    59:54 Personal Growth and the Importance of Vision
    01:04:06 Studio and the Challenges of Launching Projects
    01:15:17 Focus on Building Strong Brands
    01:17:44 Navigating Support Frameworks and Expectations
    01:20:05 Leadership and Community Engagement
    01:23:00 The Importance of Sustainable Project Support
    01:26:18 Reflections on the JOO Token and Community Dynamics
    01:36:26 Rebuilding the Token Narrative and Community Trust
     
    X: @weremeow / @JupiterExchange
    Website: https://jup.ag/

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    Important Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show.

    重要声明:Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息,不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。
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    Ep. 66 [EN]: Bryan: Stargate widens by joining the force of LayerZero

    12/23/2025 | 40 mins.
    Show Notes:
    00:00 Opening and self-introduction
    01:23 The development history of Layer 0
    04:37 Market competition and partners
    06:47 Investment and market dynamics
    09:26 Future outlook and strategic direction
    16:33 The relationship between capital and the “interstellar arena”
    19:10 Challenges of consolidation and the management environment
    21:22 The impact of STG and market changes
    24:05 Voting mechanisms and team participation
    26:57 Buyback plans and use of funds
    29:36 The development and future outlook of Layer 0
    32:37 Comparison the experience working with PayPal and Plasma
    35:45 Future challenges and opportunities
    X: @PrimordialAA / @LayerZero_Core 
    Website: https://layerzero.network/
     

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    Important Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show.

    重要声明:Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息,不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。
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    Ep.65 [EN]: Zen & Soju: Meteora finding its alignment through product innovation and user monetization

    10/21/2025 | 50 mins.
    02:04 Crypto Journeys: Soju and Zhen's Backgrounds
    04:27 Understanding Meteora: Current State and Future Vision
    06:49 Lessons from Mercurial: Token Migration and Community Support
    09:30 The Trump Token Launch: Behind the Scenes
    12:23 Positioning for Future Celebrity Launches
    14:59 Governance and Vetting Processes in Token Launches
    17:46 Dynamic Bonding Curve: Innovations and User Experience
    20:39 Dynamic Liquidity Market Maker: Features and Advantages
    23:24 Challenges and Future Developments in DLMM
    26:02 The Role of MET Token and Community Alignment
    28:32 Revenue Utilization and Buyback Philosophy
    31:10 Metrics for Success: Focusing on Fees
    33:45 Future Vision: What Will Meteora Look Like in Six Months?
     
    X: @MeteoraAG./ @0xSoju / @realdezen

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    Important Disclaimer: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show.

    重要声明:Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息,不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。
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Welcome to HODLong 后浪. This is a podcast hosted by Mable Jiang. This is THE ONLY BILINGUAL (EN/CN) PODCAST you need to follow. show attempts to shed light on the broader Web3 community, whether that being operators, investors, or ecosystem participants of other forms. 欢迎来到HODLong 后浪。双语播客你只需要关注这一个就够了。本节目由Mable Jiang主理,旨在和听众一起探索Web3 社区(项目运营者、投资人、其他生态系统参与者等)。
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