Google XR Director Juston Payne: Project Aura, Android XR, Lessons from Google Glass
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Juston Payne is Google's Senior Director of Product Management for XR and the product mind behind Android XR and the newly announced Project Aura. He joins the AI Inside podcast to explain how Google plans to succeed where Google Glass fell short over a decade ago. We dig into why the smart glasses market today resembles the iPhone before the App Store existed, how Google's platform approach lowers the lift for developers, and why multimodal AI makes this the right moment for XR to take off. Juston also shares a personal story about his son navigating Rome with nothing but prototype glasses. Tune in for an essential conversation about where computing is headed next.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00:00 - Podcast begins
00:00:44 - Introducing Juston Payne, Google's Senior Director of Product Management for XR
00:02:13 - Why Google Sees XR as the Next Major Computing Platform
00:05:14 - Google's Ecosystem Advantage and the Developer Problem
00:09:22 - Gemini and XR: A Perfect Multimodal Pairing
00:13:17 - Google Maps and the AI Pipeline Powering Immersive Experiences
00:16:44 - The 10-Year-Old Navigating Rome with Prototype Glasses
00:18:54 - Juston Reveals His Original Google Glass Explorer Edition
00:21:59 - The Three Things Missing from Glass: Hardware, Platform, and AI
00:26:02 - Privacy, Cameras, and Cultural Acceptance
00:27:43 - The Xreal Partnership and Project Aura
00:33:04 - Thank you to Juston Payne for joining the AI Inside podcast
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Introducing Smart Talks with IBM
Jason Howell recommends the Smart Talks with IBM podcast where business leaders, technologists and creatives explore how AI and other innovations are transforming industries.
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What a Difference Three Years Makes
Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis unpack Apple's new AI chief Amar Subramanya, ChatGPT's third birthday reflections, and how Silicon Valley is spoofing websites to train its AI agents without getting blocked by the real thing.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00:00 - Podcast start
0:02:50 - https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/30/chatgpt-third-birthday/
0:05:30 - https://techcrunch.com/2025/11/30/chatgpt-launched-three-years-ago-today/
0:16:25 - https://techcrunch.com/2025/12/01/apple-just-named-a-new-ai-chief-with-google-and-microsoft-expertise-as-john-giannandrea-steps-down/
0:22:42 - https://techcrunch.com/2025/12/02/amazon-releases-an-impressive-new-ai-chip-and-teases-a-nvidia-friendly-roadmap/
0:29:35 - https://www.rohan-paul.com/p/semianalysis-on-google-tpu-vs-nvidia
- https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/tpuv7-google-takes-a-swing-at-the
0:33:25 - https://archive.ph/YsUrX#selection-285.0-285.85
0:39:00 - https://deadline.com/2025/11/james-cameron-gen-ai-horrifying-human-art-sacred-avatar-1236631387/?link_source=ta_first_comment&taid=692d672d138b980001cfe084&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawOaZNRleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFCV25hNGNVSm95Tzk0S3pVc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHsePuPpiv_rP7ZGwwz3XHIDvCxbAILSEt1DcFsZBIT8kw3T9uUkOQR3VqHU5_aem_Er2ggpoE7126yXy0m4i_lg
0:43:53 - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/02/technology/silicon-valley-builds-amazon-and-gmail-copycats-to-train-ai-agents.html
0:52:53 - https://venturebeat.com/ai/deepseek-just-dropped-two-insanely-powerful-ai-models-that-rival-gpt-5-and
0:55:37 - Runway unveils Gen-4.5 video generation model that tops Video Arena
1:00:49 - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/01/technology/college-computer-science-ai-boom.html
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Introducing Smart Talks with IBM
Jason Howell recommends the Smart Talks with IBM podcast where business leaders, technologists and creatives explore how AI and other innovations are transforming industries.
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Behind the Scenes of Nano Banana Pro
Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis explore Google’s Nano Banana Pro launch and Jason's unique sit-down with the leaders of Gemini 3, Nvidia’s earnings amid AI bubble talks, Google’s TPU deal with Meta, and Warner Music’s Suno settlement. They also cover Trump’s Genesis Mission, Gmail AI concerns, Anthropic Opus 4.5, and Character AI’s age ban.
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Chapters:
6:43 - Google launches Nano Banana Pro, an updated AI image generator powered by Gemini 3
8:21 - Nate B Jones example of how he used Nano Bana Pro
15:33 - Behind the scenes with Google's Gemini team - 3 insights that surprised me the most
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23:39 - Nvidia’s Strong Results Show AI Fears Are Premature
24:30 - Google Further Encroaches on Nvidia’s Turf With New AI Chip Push
26:03 - Nvidia's happy for Google
32:18 - What to know about Trump’s order for the AI project ‘Genesis Mission’
38:07 - Google denies analyzing your emails for AI training - here's what happened
41:22 - Warner Music Group strikes ‘landmark’ deal with Suno; settles copyright lawsuit against AI music generator
44:31 - Suno creators making 7m songs a day; trained on only $2k
51:54 - Anthropic introduces cheaper, more powerful, more efficient Opus 4.5 model
55:36 - Teens Are Saying Tearful Goodbyes to Their AI Companions
58:02 - Jony Ive and Sam Altman say they finally have an AI hardware prototype
58:53 - Sam Altman and Jony Ive have a 'lick' test for OpenAI's mysterious AI device, which they expect within the next 2 years
1:00:43 - OpenAI Partner Foxconn Plans Multibillion-Dollar US AI Push
1:01:34 - Meta chief AI scientist Yann LeCun is leaving to create his own startup
1:03:09 - Jony Ive and Sam Altman say they finally have an AI hardware prototype
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AI Inside explores the complexities of artificial intelligence and its impact on the world at large. Hosted by tech podcaster Jason Howell and media expert Jeff Jarvis, AI Inside takes a thoughtful look at the promise and challenges of AI while inviting some of the industry's most notable players and thinkers to engage in thoughtful dialogue about AI, neither overhyping its potential nor dismissing public concerns about its development. With a deep interest in AI's impacts on art and culture, Jason uses his rich experience in technology and creativity to understand its capabilities better. Jeff is a respected voice on technology's influence on media and society, thanks to his popular blog BuzzMachine and books like "The Web We Weave" and "The Gutenberg Parenthesis." Together, Jason and Jeff aim to advance public understanding of this world-changing technology at an important inflection point.