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Ep. 146 - Stephen Zeigler (These Days Gallery)Stephen Zeigler is the co-founder of the Downtown Los Angeles-based art gallery “These Days”. We provide a timeline of his life, from his childhood in Manhattan Beach to a firsthand glimpse into the first wave of Los Angeles punk, and then into a lengthy career in photography with all its triumphs and tribulations.His journey eventually led him and his wife (and co-founder) Jodi Zeigler to find a building in Downtown Los Angeles that initially served as their studio for the first couple of years and later became “These Days”.Further topics we discuss include touring with AFI on their first national tour, the many lives of the building at 118 Winston St. (These Days), making a living through photography, sincerity and honesty in the art world, and more.

Ep. 145 - The DarkThe Dark is a punk band based out of Compton, California, who released our favorite album of 2024, Sinking Into Madness.With a trajectory spanning 10 years and heavy Japanese punk influences such as GISM and GZET, you can also hear GBH and Black Metal mixed into their sound.They self-released two demos, a 7-inch EP titled Demons under "Darker Records”, and a full-length album on Toxic State Records at the beginning of 2024 (as previously mentioned).We are honored to have captured a glimpse into the story behind this unique and mysterious sound. This episode was recorded in Gaby's (the bassist) childhood home on December 14, 2024.

Ep. 144 - Shane Moran (Title Fight)A conversation that has been a couple of years in the making. Shane and I sit down on a sunny Sunday afternoon in South Central Los Ángeles.We talk about his teenage years leading up to joining Title Fight, the Wilkes-Barre hardcore scene, his late friend John Slaby, his thoughts on a reunion, and working with Kenny Mason.

Ep. 143 - Jules TrifanJules Trifan is a South Florida Hardcore veteran known for fronting Result of Choice and playing guitar in Collateral.We speak on her youth, fronting Result of Choice at a young age, South Florida Hardcore, our favorite Zines, and more.