Design This Day

Devin speaks with Corey Clothier, a longtime leader in autonomous vehicles. Corey is the co-founder and CEO of ARIBO Autonomous Solutions, where he helps government agencies and private companies deploy autonomous tech in the real world. In this episode, Corey and Devin talk about autonomy as a shift in how systems work. Good design considers not just what machines can do, but also how they fit into the complex realities of human life. The two explore what that looks like when the human element is a family on vacation, an airport manager struggling to hire staff, and a wounded veteran looking for care. Longtime listeners take note: autonomous lawnmowers make another appearance.

1:34 Fort Bragg's wounded warrior problem
2:23 Convincing a two-star general
6:30 Most useful robot for Marines? 
8:53 Vegas says yes to robot shuttles
12:01 "There's no steering wheel!"
13:12 From Johnny Cab to real autonomy
16:35 The curb space conundrum
17:38 Difference makers: the people in charge
18:21 Michigan leading by example
20:32 Evil robots and American pop culture
21:18 Painted forklifts
23:06 Autonomous lawnmowers

Links
Devin Liddell on LinkedIn
Corey Clothier on LinkedIn
Teague

About the Host: Futurist Devin Liddell
Devin Liddell is the Principal Futurist at Teague. With over two decades of experience in innovation and design strategy, Devin has worked with industry giants like Boeing, Intel, and Nike, helping organizations anticipate changes across both near- and far-term horizons to create their preferred futures. Devin is a frequent contributor to Fast Company. 

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Devin speaks with Robert Walker, a senior design leader who recently transitioned from a two-decade career in automotive design into the world of defense. He previously led design for some of Ford and GM’s most iconic vehicles. Now, he’s applying that experience to the radically different challenge of designing tactical vehicles for military use. It’s a dramatic shift – one that raises big questions about how design adapts when the stakes are high. 

1:47 Welcome to the defense industry  
4:01 The designer's ”curse”
5:13 Humvees and backup cameras
8:44 Success redefined – getting soldiers home
11:38 Humans vs machines on the battlefield
13:13 Leading both design and engineering teams
15:18 Prototyping: build first, get permission later 
17:49 Lightening Round

Links
Devin Liddell on LinkedIn
Robert Walker on LinkedIn
Teague

About the Host: Futurist Devin Liddell
Devin Liddell is the Principal Futurist at Teague. With over two decades of experience in innovation and design strategy, Devin has worked with industry giants like Boeing, Intel, and Nike, helping organizations anticipate changes across both near- and far-term horizons to create their preferred futures. Devin is a frequent contributor to Fast Company. 

Get in Touch 
Have a complex problem that needs solving? Have a great guest or topic idea? We want to hear from you. Visit us at teague.com or send us an email at [email protected]

Devin speaks with Jen Bucci, VP of Design at Anduril Industries, a defense company specializing in autonomous technology. Jen leads a hands-on creative team that covers everything from industrial and graphic design to film and photography.

Jen shares how her love for James Bond films shaped her approach to design, how branding ties into accountability, and why designing for defense means developing a clear, cohesive design language that touches everything from hardware to typography. It’s a strikingly modern approach in an industry where user experience is often overlooked. Plus, Jen tips her hat to Virgil Abloh — because sometimes the label is the design.

1:22 When missiles get the anime treatment
5:18 Designing for the 18-year-old warfighter
7:26 Virgil Abloh and the art of labeling everything
11:02 If your brand color is blue…
14:35 Function as features: design under constraints
16:42 Respect for the user in high-stakes design
17:49 Hard questions: ethics and transparency
20:33 Inspiration from Minority Report to Cyberpunk
22:35 Lightning round

Links
Devin Liddell on LinkedIn
Jen Bucci on LinkedIn
Teague

About the Host: Futurist Devin Liddell
Devin Liddell is the Principal Futurist at Teague. With over two decades of experience in innovation and design strategy, Devin has worked with industry giants like Boeing, Intel, and Nike, helping organizations anticipate changes across both near- and far-term horizons to create their preferred futures. Devin is a frequent contributor to Fast Company. 

Get in Touch 
Have a complex problem that needs solving? Have a great guest or topic idea? We want to hear from you. Visit us at teague.com or send us an email at [email protected]

Devin speaks with Christina O'Claire, the Mobility Division Director at King County Metro, the public transit agency serving Seattle and the surrounding region. Chris has over 15 years of experience shaping mobility services in communities and championing innovation in the public sector. In this episode, we talk about designing mobility that actually works for people today while laying the groundwork for what comes next. Plus Chris shares how she thinks new modalities and technologies, such as autonomous vehicles, fit into a more connected future.

0:00 Intro
1:22 Microtransit pilot: failure and lessons
04:59 Balancing public and private partnerships
08:27 Role of employer shuttles
12:26 Data privacy in modern transit
14:16 Future technologies and fundamentals
16:43 Disruptors and system gaps
18:53 Lightening round

Links
Devin Liddell on LinkedIn
Christina O’Claire on LinkedIn
Teague

About the Host: Futurist Devin Liddell
Devin Liddell is the Principal Futurist at Teague. With over two decades of experience in innovation and design strategy, Devin has worked with industry giants like Boeing, Intel, and Nike, helping organizations anticipate changes across both near- and far-term horizons to create their preferred futures. Devin is a frequent contributor to Fast Company. 

Get in Touch 
Have a complex problem that needs solving? Have a great guest or topic idea? We want to hear from you. Visit us at teague.com or send us an email at [email protected]

Devin speaks with Bruno Bachinger, Chief Engineer at Radia. Radia is building the world's largest aircraft. This airplane will be ten times bigger than a commercial jetliner, with a cargo capacity that pushes what we think is possible in flight. Bruno brings decades of aerospace experience to the table, including more than twenty years at Boeing. In this episode, Bruno explains how prioritizing heavy-lift logistics could open up possibilities for renewable energy, defense, space, and humanitarian work. Plus, we explore why design decisions, not new technologies, can act as the real engines of innovation.

0:00 Intro
2:30 The business case for an oversized cargo plane 
4:13 Small steps, big momentum
6:29 Start with the problem
7:26 Transporting fighter jets fully assembled
11:24 Humanitarian airlifts 
12:50 “Short” wings and function-first design 
16:08 Startup spirit: Betting big on purpose and teamwork
19:50 Lightning Round

Links
Devin Liddell on LinkedIn
Bruno Bachinger on LinkedIn
Teague

About the Host: Futurist Devin Liddell
Devin Liddell is the Principal Futurist at Teague. With over two decades of experience in innovation and design strategy, Devin has worked with industry giants like Boeing, Intel, and Nike, helping organizations anticipate changes across both near- and far-term horizons to create their preferred futures. Devin is a frequent contributor to Fast Company. 

Get in Touch 
Have a complex problem that needs solving? Have a great guest or topic idea? We want to hear from you. Visit us at teague.com or send us an email at [email protected]