The Tragically Hip Podcast Series

Fully & Completely: redux – Music @ Work

Guest: Rob Johannes
🎧 Episode Overview

In Episode 9 of Fully & Completely: redux, we dive headfirst into Music @ Work, The Tragically Hip’s 2000 studio album — a record often misunderstood, occasionally maligned, but undeniably pivotal.
Joined by musician and longtime Hip devotee Rob Johannes, we unpack why this album may represent the band’s second great unshackling — their “Kid A moment,” as Rob puts it.
From John Cage references and Indigenous commentary to experimental production textures and some of the strongest background vocals in the band’s catalog, Music @ Work emerges as a bold, transitional, and deeply layered record.
Is this the Hip’s most cohesive album of the 2000s?
Is it their quiet revolution?
Is it better than its reputation?
Let’s get into it.

🔍 What We Explore in This Episode

🎙 The Context of 2000
Radiohead’s Kid A and artistic reinvention
Outkast’s Stankonia
U2’s return to form
Cultural tension at the turn of the millennium
Where The Tragically Hip fit in that landscape

🎸 The Production Shift
Steve Berlin’s return
Recording at the Bathhouse
The abandoned train-recording concept
Electronic textures meeting organic instrumentation

🔥 Key Track Deep Dives
“My Music @ Work” – deceptively upbeat with dark undercurrents
“Tiger the Lion” – John Cage, experimental art, and Mission Statement 2.0
“Lake Fever” – cholera, young love, and Algonquin mythmaking
“Put It Down” – subtle political commentary and ricochet culture
“Stay” – desperation, longing, and balance
“The Bastard” – Billy Sunday, theology, swagger

🎤 Gord Downie’s Evolution
Phraseology and rhythmic tension
Consonant holds and vocal elasticity
Serving the song vs. serving expectation
The politics that simmer beneath the poetry

💬 Pull Quote

“This is the Hip’s Kid A moment. The unshackling. The second time they tore it down to rebuild it.” – Rob Johannes

🎶 Why Music @ Work Matters

This isn’t just the follow-up to Phantom Power.
This is a pivot point.

Where Fully Completely led to Day for Night,
where Trouble at the Henhouse recalibrated,
where Phantom Power reasserted control —

Music @ Work quietly breaks the machinery open again.

It’s experimental without announcing itself as experimental.
It’s political without sermonizing.
It’s cohesive in ways that only reveal themselves years later.

This episode reframes the album not as a stumble —
but as a deliberate recalibration of The Tragically Hip’s creative identity.

👤 About Our Guest – Rob Johannes

Rob Johannes is a Toronto-based musician and longtime Hip champion whose deep appreciation for the band’s experimental and arts-driven eras makes him the perfect guide for this conversation. His perspective — shaped by both West Coast and Ontario Hip culture — brings fresh nuance to how Music @ Work was received and how it should be reconsidered.

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Discovering Downie: 
Live at Six
 (Gord Downie + The Sadies + The Conquering Sun) — Track-by-Track on Release Day

On launch day, jD reunites with Craig Rogers, Kirk Lane, and Justin St. Louis to break down Live at Six, a newly released live record featuring Gord Downie, The Sadies, and The Conquering Sun. It’s an eight-track collection drawn from four shows (Sarnia, Fredericton, Cambridge, MA, and Dundas) spanning 2012 and 2014.
This episode is a full-on fan-and-musician conversation: play it loud, follow the rabbit holes, and enjoy a record that feels like you’re right up against the stage, even when it was recorded outdoors.
MVP picks, deep cover-song origins, live-record sequencing debates, and a whole lot of gratitude—plus a reminder that sometimes the point isn’t to decode everything. Sometimes it’s just rock and roll.

Episode Highlights
The crew gets back together to cover Live at Six on release day
Why this record feels like a sweaty club even when it isn’t
The meaning behind the title Live at Six (and where “six” actually comes from)
Major rabbit holes (including the story behind “If You Have Ghosts”)
Covers that still sound unmistakably like Gord Downie + The Sadies
Live energy: loose-but-tight, tempo shifts, extended outros, and why that’s part of the magic
MVP picks from each host—plus what track people “need to hear” first

Tracklist Breakdown (as discussed)

1) “If You Have Ghosts” — recorded in Dundas, Ontario (Sept 1, 2012)
Huge reactions to Dallas Good’s performance
Deep dive into Rocky Erickson and the song’s backstory
Why the lyric “If you have ghosts, you have everything” hits so hard

2) “So Sad About Us” — Sarnia (Aug 30, 2014) — a The Who cover
Noted for harmonies and a vibe that recalls early rock/pop influence
Discussion of how naturally it sits in Gord’s wheelhouse

3) “It Didn’t Start to Break My Heart” — (live version discussed as an all-time banger)
Faster than the studio version; jam section praised heavily
Described as completely over-delivering as a live performance

4) “Grey Riders” — Fredericton, New Brunswick (Sept 12, 2014) — Harvest Jazz & Blues Festival — a Neil Young song
Strong praise for backing vocals and arrangement
Conversation about preferring this version vs. the one they heard from Neil

5) “Generation” — Fredericton (Sept 12, 2014) — a Fucked Up cover
Album title reference comes from Gord speaking right before/around this track (“at six o’clock”)
Note: the group didn’t have as much time with this track due to a file miss

6) Cambridge, Massachusetts set (May 3, 2014) — a track originally by The Gun Club (from Fire of Love, 1981)
Described as the most “Sadies-sounding” song on the record
Talk of punk lineage and guitar swagger

7) “Demand Destruction” — revisited live (from the Sarnia show)
jD’s MVP: the live performance hits harder than the studio version
Favorite lyric noted: “Breakdown in the verse part / Dead spot in the lyrics…” (songwriting “fourth wall” moment)

8) “I Gotta Right” — The Stooges cover (closing track)
Described as a “punch in the face” closer
Leaves everyone wanting more; debate about wishing the album was longer
Justin mentions being disappointed it wasn’t “Search and Destroy” (also performed by Gord + The Sadies in other live clips)

MVP Picks

Craig: “If You Have Ghosts”
Kirk: “Grey Riders” (and says “I Gotta Write” is the one people need to hear)
Justin: “It Didn’t Start to Break My Heart”
jD: “Demand Destruction”

Production Credits (as stated on the episode)

Mixed by Ken Friesen (all tracks) except “Goodbye Johnny”
“Goodbye Johnny” mixed by Dallas Good and Guillermo Sabatze
Mastered by Philip Shaw Bova

Timestamps (approx. from transcript)

0:49 — Welcome + what Live at Six is + who’s on the mic
3:36 — Release context: 4 shows, 2012/2014, where the recordings come from
9:14 — Track 1: “If You Have Ghosts” deep dive begins
21:57 — Track 2: “So Sad About Us” (The Who cover)
33:11 — “It Didn’t Start to Break My Heart” (live version reaction)
38:27 — “Grey Riders” (Neil Young)
43:54 — Side B + “Generation” (Fucked Up) + title explanation
51:07 — Cambridge, MA track (The Gun Club origin discussed)
55:26 — “Goodbye Johnny” (live vs studio)
59:11 — Closer: “I Gotta Write” (The Stooges) + credits
1:09:24 — MVP picks
1:17:41 — Final thoughts + gratitude + community + live music plug

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On this episode of The Tragically Hip On Shuffle, we landed on “Fully Completely,” the title track from The Tragically Hip’s landmark 1992 album Fully Completely, and brought together Toronto Mike, Joe Cad of Forever Hip, and Duxoop Douglas to unpack it properly. This is a song that finished #13 in the fan-voted Top Forty Countdown and continues to hold a unique place in the Hip catalogue — not the loudest track on the record, but one that reveals itself more the longer you live with it. With Fully Completely sitting among some of the band’s most iconic songs, this conversation digs into what makes the title track endure — structurally, emotionally, and personally — decades later

Episode Summary

From the jump, the panel keeps circling back to how much weight “Fully Completely” carries in such a compact frame. jD points out the song’s efficiency — how there’s nothing wasted in its structure, lyrically or musically. It moves quickly but never feels slight. Instead, it builds tension through groove and restraint, creating something that feels dense despite its relatively short runtime.
Toronto Mike situates the track within the broader context of the Fully Completely album, a record stacked with defining Tragically Hip songs like “Locked in the Trunk of a Car,” “Courage,” and “50 Mission Cap.” In that company, the title track can sometimes feel overshadowed, but he emphasizes how it stands on its own — particularly in live settings, where its emotional and musical arc becomes even more apparent.
Joe Cad brings a performer’s lens to the discussion, describing “Fully Completely” as his personal favorite Hip song. As the frontman of Forever Hip, he speaks to the physical and emotional experience of performing it, highlighting its gradual build and payoff. He describes it as a kind of musical ascent, where every section contributes to a sense of lift and release by the end.
Duxoop Douglas reflects on discovering the song in a different way — through individual listens rather than as part of the original album rollout. His experience mirrors the premise of the show itself: rediscovering The Tragically Hip one song at a time. Over time, “Fully Completely” earned its place as a standout, not because it demanded attention immediately, but because it rewarded repeated listening.
Interpretation becomes another thread running through the episode. The panel explores different readings of Gord Downie’s lyrics, reinforcing how the song’s meaning remains open and personal. Like many Hip songs, “Fully Completely” doesn’t hand you a single answer — it leaves space for listeners to find themselves inside it.

Topics Discussed

• Why “Fully Completely” feels dense and efficient despite its short runtime
• The song’s place within the Fully Completely album and the Tragically Hip catalogue
• Differences between studio and live performances of the track
• Joe Cad’s experience performing the song with Forever Hip
• How listeners discover Hip songs outside of traditional album listening
• The interpretive openness of Gord Downie’s lyrics
• The song’s placement at #13 in the fan-voted Top Forty Countdown

Pull Quote

“It’s very economical. I don’t know that there’s 150 words in it. And yet it feels fucking dense, pound for pound.”

About Our Guest(s)

Toronto Mike
Toronto Mike is the host of Toronto Mike’d, a long-running podcast featuring interviews with musicians, media personalities, and cultural figures. A lifelong music fan, he brings historical context and deep personal experience with The Tragically Hip’s albums and live performances.
Joe Cad
Joe Cad is the frontman of Forever Hip, a Tragically Hip tribute band dedicated to performing the band’s catalogue for audiences who continue to connect with the music. His perspective combines fandom with the lived experience of performing these songs.
Duxoop Douglas
Duxoop Douglas is a dedicated Tragically Hip listener whose discovery of the band unfolded gradually through individual tracks and repeated listening. His perspective reflects the personal and evolving nature of connecting with the Hip’s catalogue.

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Toronto Mike
• torontomike.com
Joe Cad
• foreverhip.ca
Duxoop Douglas
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🎙️ Fully & Completely: Redux

Phantom Power
 (1998) — Remastered. Revisited. Reconsidered.

Originally released in 2018. Re-edited, remixed, and reintroduced in 2026.
July 14th, 1998.
Steve Berlin at the helm.
The band at full stride.
The ice storm still in the trees.
Hockey still in the bloodstream.
And somehow — almost impossibly —
The Tragically Hip delivered a “comeback” record that never needed a comeback.
We went back into the bathhouse for this one.
We cleaned it up.
We tightened the mix.
We added a short 2026 intro from Greg and I.
It’s quick. It’s sweet. It sets the tone.
And then we let 1998 breathe again.

🟡 Phantom Power — The Yellow Record

We’ve always talked about this stretch:
Day for Night — blue
Trouble at the Henhouse — red
Phantom Power — yellow
Primary colours.
Primary era.
Primary stride.
This is the record where:
🎸 The rock came back
🎭 The art never left
🏒 Hockey met heartbreak
🇨🇦 Canada stayed cinematic
🎤 Gord Downie hit that upper register and meant it

🔥 The Run Is Unreal

Poets — the perfect lead single.
Something On — the ice storm riff.
Bobcaygeon — say less.
Thompson Girl — that vocal lift.
Fireworks — romance + Bobby Orr.
Escape Is At Hand — narrative brilliance.
Emperor Penguin — matriarchal masterpiece.

There are no throwaways here.
No padding.
No “yeah, it’s fine” tracks.
Just a band fully hitting its stride.

🎧 Why This Redux Matters

When we first recorded this episode in 2018, we loved it.
But revisiting it now?
With more context.
More history.
More loss.
More gratitude.
It hits different.

There’s a warmth in Phantom Power.
A confidence.
A joy that doesn’t feel naive.
It feels earned.
And hearing it again in 2026 — cleaned up and tightened — reminded us:
This isn’t just a “great Canadian rock album.”
It’s one of the strongest records in The Tragically Hip catalogue.

🎙️ Pull Quote

“This is a band fully hitting their stride of what they do right… unconventional, but it completely works.”

💬 Let’s Talk

I want to hear from you:
Where were you in 1998 when Phantom Power dropped?
Did this feel like a comeback?
Is Bobcaygeon still the one?
Has Escape Is At Hand grown on you?
Do you skip anything? (be honest)

Tag someone who needs to rediscover this record.
Let’s spark something.

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🎙️ The Tragically Hip On Shuffle

Episode: 
Nautical Disaster (Day for Night)

This week on The Tragically Hip On Shuffle, we pulled a heavyweight.
Nautical Disaster.
jD is joined by Scott from Lunenburg and Dave from St. Louis for a deep dive into one of the most cinematic, structurally daring, and emotionally layered songs in The Tragically Hip catalogue.
From that opening Gord Sinclair bassline to the fade-up intro, no traditional chorus, and the full minute-plus instrumental outro, this episode unpacks why Nautical Disaster breaks the rules — and why it still works.
As jD puts it, it’s “a rhythm poem” and possibly the keystone of Day for Night .

🔍 What We Explore

First memories of hearing Nautical Disaster live and on record
The Day for Night era shift from Fully Completely
The song’s unconventional structure (no chorus, fade-in, extended outro)
Gord Downie’s lyrical cadence and conversational storytelling
The “parasites in your blood” imagery and themes of empathy and survival
The role of the MuchMusic video and the SNL performance in expanding the band’s reach
The ongoing debate: historical event or metaphorical shipwreck?

Scott, a longtime broadcaster and station owner, breaks down the musicianship — especially Sinclair’s bass work — while Dave reflects on discovering The Hip from the U.S. through MuchMusic tapes and the cult-like conversion experience .

💬 Why This Song Endures

Thirty-plus years later, the panel agrees: this one has no shelf life.
It’s cinematic. It’s conversational. It’s haunting without being theatrical. And it rewards repeat listens in a way casual fans may miss on first pass .
If you’ve ever wondered why Nautical Disaster still hits like it does — or why it feels bigger than a “radio single” ever should — this episode is for you.
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