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  • No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

    The Subtext: Noah Kahan's New Record Will Make You Go to Therapy Again

    05/06/2026 | 46 mins.
    Noah Kahan’s The Great Divide is a brutally honest soundtrack to growing up, drifting away, and figuring out how to make peace with the place you come from.

    This episode dives into The Great Divide, the latest record from Noah Kahan, and unpacks its themes of home, relationships, love, and friendship. In it, they explore their own connections to their hometowns, Wendell Berry’s hot take about automobiles, and Kahan’s own eschatology (that he may or may not know about).

    Things we mentioned in this episode:

    The Great Divide album by Noah Kahan

    The Frozen River by Ariel Lawhon

    Alabama I Am Bound by Walker Burroughs

    Out of Your Car, Off Your Horse by Wendell Berry

    Against the Machine by Paul Kingsnorth

    Center Church by Tim Keller

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  • No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

    The Subtext: Noah Kahan's New Record Will Make You Go to Therapy Again

    05/06/2026 | 59 mins.
    Noah Kahan’s The Great Divide is a brutally honest soundtrack to growing up, drifting away, and figuring out how to make peace with the place you come from.

    This episode dives into The Great Divide, the latest record from Noah Kahan, and unpacks its themes of home, relationships, love, and friendship. In it, they explore their own connections to their hometowns, Wendell Berry’s hot take about automobiles, and Kahan’s own eschatology (that he may or may not know about).

    Things we mentioned in this episode:

    The Great Divide album by Noah Kahan

    The Frozen River by Ariel Lawhon

    Alabama I Am Bound by Walker Burroughs

    Out of Your Car, Off Your Horse by Wendell Berry

    Against the Machine by Paul Kingsnorth

    Center Church by Tim Keller

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  • No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

    260: Nicholas Ma: What to Do With the People You Love But Don’t Agree With

    05/04/2026 | 51 mins.
    What if the goal of disagreement isn’t to win, but to stay in relationship?

    After producing the smash hit documentary “Won’t You Be My Neighbor,” on the life of Fred Rogers, filmmaker Nicholas Ma had one lingering question: Where is the kindness and acceptance that Mr. Rogers embodied in today’s divided world? He found the answer in his latest documentary, Leap of Faith, which follows 12 pastors as they navigate the deep theological and cultural challenges that divide them. Nicholas discusses the process of making the film, the unlikely friendships that developed, and the quiet power of sitting with another person’s pain.

    Key Ideas:

    -Love Beyond Understanding

    True friendship grows when we learn to love the parts in others that we cannot understand.

    -Stay Present in Pain

    Transformation often begins not by fixing or debating, but by sitting with another’s pain and bearing witness together.

    -Choose Relationship Over Certainty

    Clinging to certainty can make our worldview fragile, while embracing the unknown creates space for growth, faith, and connection.

    -Endure the Process of Change

    Meaningful change requires time; like any deep human process, it cannot be rushed without losing its depth.

    -Practice Proximate Care

    Human flourishing begins locally—by loving our neighbors well and cultivating communities of care where we are.

    ⁠Show Notes, Resources, and Transcript⁠ for abridged episode with Nicholas Ma⁠

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    No Small Endeavor: An award-winning podcast that asks what it means to live a good life. Through conversations with leading thinkers across theology, philosophy, psychology, politics, and the social sciences, we explore human flourishing, meaning and purpose, faith and culture, science and religion, virtue and character, religion and spirituality, community, and the practices that help shape a good life grounded in truth, beauty, and goodness. Follow ⁠@nosmallendeavor⁠ 

    Host Lee C. Camp: Lee has worked as a professor of theology & ethics for more than 25 years, teaching and writing on topics of faith & politics, inter-religious dialog, and human flourishing at the intersection of theology, moral philosophy, and social sciences. Follow ⁠@leeccamp ⁠
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  • No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

    259: Unabridged Interview: Kristin T. Lee

    05/01/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    This is our unabridged interview with Kristin T. Lee.

    What happens when we question the faith that formed us?

    Dr. Kristin T. Lee, physician and author of We Mend with Gold: An Immigrant Daughter’s Reckoning with American Christianity, reflects on her journey as a Chinese American navigating faith and identity in the immigrant church of her youth. In this conversation, she explores the beauty and complexity of immigrant communities, the unconscious bias that can undermine true belonging, and the courageous work of reconstructing a more authentic and life-giving spirituality. Together, we consider what it means to pursue faith and community in a fractured world.

    Key Ideas:

    Embrace Complex Identity Authentic living begins by integrating, not erasing, the contradictions that exist between one's culture, faith, and personal history.

    Question Inherited Faith Honest spiritual growth often means examining what we’ve been taught and discerning for ourselves how those ideas might lead to true flourishing.

    Redefine What’s “Normal” Cultural norms and unconscious bias often hide power and privilege, and naming them opens the door to deeper healing and justice.

    Practice Honest Community Flourishing relationships depend on vulnerability, where hidden pain can be shared and transformed in community.

    Resist the Endless Climb The pursuit of the American Dream can rob us of true meaning and purpose if we don’t also consider the people it leaves behind.

    Find Beauty in Brokenness Like kintsugi, a meaningful life is not about avoiding fractures, but allowing them to be mended into something more whole and honest.

    ⁠Show Notes, Resources, and Transcript⁠ for abridged episode with Kristin T. Lee⁠

    ⁠Join NSE+⁠ — our subscriber-only community — for ad-free listening, member-only bonus content, and early access to live show tickets. Your membership helps make No Small Endeavor sustainable.

    No Small Endeavor: An award-winning podcast that asks what it means to live a good life. Through conversations with leading thinkers across theology, philosophy, psychology, politics, and the social sciences, we explore human flourishing, meaning and purpose, faith and culture, science and religion, virtue and character, religion and spirituality, community, and the practices that help shape a good life grounded in truth, beauty, and goodness. Follow ⁠@nosmallendeavor⁠ 

    Host Lee C. Camp: Lee has worked as a professor of theology & ethics for more than 25 years, teaching and writing on topics of faith & politics, inter-religious dialog, and human flourishing at the intersection of theology, moral philosophy, and social sciences. Follow ⁠@leeccamp ⁠
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  • No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

    The Subtext: Netflix is Boring Because of Our Short Atten—

    04/29/2026 | 32 mins.
    Are our shrinking attention spans rewriting the rules of storytelling?

    This week on The Subtext, we dig into the claim that streaming platforms like Netflix are deliberately dumbing down storytelling to accommodate distracted viewers. What is being lost when stories are engineered for half-watching? Are we shaping content around distraction, or training ourselves to expect it? And in a world where story is increasingly reduced to “content,” what does it mean to tell something true, meaningful, and worth paying attention to?

    Things we mentioned in this episode:

    Trust Me on Netflix

    Waiting for God by Simone Weil

    Jefferson Fisher on Diary of a CEO

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About No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships? On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time. Together we ask: How can religion be a force for healing instead of division? What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity? Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good? How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively? If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road. Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
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