Behind the Bastards

In Part Two, Robert is again joined by Dr. Kaveh Hoda to discuss the rise and fall of the doctor at the center of the wellness podcast circuit: Dr. Peter Attia. From his stent as a McKinsey consult consultant to his pricey concierge longevity practice, a hit podcast, and a #1 bestseller. We break down "Medicine 3.0" and where the evidence holds up, where it doesn't, and how a smart, credible doctor can end up giving cover to the MAHA crowd. Finally, we get into his emails with Jeffrey Epstein, the fallout at CBS and his sponsors, and what it all says about doctors, fame, and wealthy patients. Content note: discusses Jeffrey Epstein and sexual abuse.

Sources:
Attia, Peter. Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity. March 28, 2023.
Johansson, Minna, et al. "Continuous Glucose Monitoring for Persons With and Without Diabetes." JAMA, August 3, 2026.
Khullar, Dhruv. "How to Die in Good Health." The New Yorker, April 15, 2024.
Mann, Brian. "McKinsey & Company to Pay $650 Million for Role in Opioid Crisis." NPR, December 13, 2024.
Martin, Kristen. "The Problem With Peter Attia: The Longevity Guru Turned Up in the Epstein Files. Should We Have Taken His Health Advice So Seriously in the First Place?" Slate, February 26, 2026.
Ruetenik, Daniel, and Arden, Farhi. "Dr. Peter Attia, Longevity Expert, Apologizes for 'Indefensible' Emails to Jeffrey Epstein." CBS News, February 2, 2026.
Tyrangiel, Josh. "The Epstein Spectrum." The Atlantic, April 3, 2026.
Walker, Graham. "A Skeptic's Review of Peter Attia's Outlive." LinkedIn, January 13, 2024. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/skeptics-review-peter-attias-outlive-graham-walker-md-z6rsc
Blum, Dani "Peter Attia's Ties to Epstein Spark Backlash From Doctors." The New York Times, February 10, 2026
Kaufman, Maya and Gardner, Laura . "I Think She Will Be Loyal: Jeffrey Epstein's Role in Peter Attia's Rise." Politico, March 16, 2026.
Pollack, Neal. "The Plight of Peter Attia." The Spectator, July 15, 2025.
Greene, Jenna. Epstein files up in lawsuit, over stock options by longevity expert, Peter Attia. March 20, 2026
Podcasts:
The Peter Attia Drive. Episode 168, August 2021.
The Peter Attia Drive. Episode 172, August 2021.
The Peter Attia Drive. Episode 190, January 10, 2022.
The Peter Attia Drive. Episode 298, April 15, 2024.
The Joe Rogan Experience. Episode 1735, 1961
Jocko Podcast. Episodes 55, 56, and 392.
The Tim Ferriss Show. Episode 398, "Peter Attia, MD: Fasting, Metformin, Athletic Performance, and More," November 27, 2019.
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Dr. Peter Attia is not the worst doctor we've covered, but he may be one of the most influential. This week, Robert is joined by Dr. Kaveh Hoda to learn about the rise of a longevity medicine superstar who would influence the manosphere, the biohacker set, and the "healthspan" crowd. Covering what longevity medicine actually is and why concierge care is a problem for the country.
Check out Kaveh's new podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/persian-of-interest/id6814679153?i=1000791027349
Sources:
Attia, Peter. Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity. March 28, 2023.
Johansson, Minna, et al. "Continuous Glucose Monitoring for Persons With and Without Diabetes." JAMA, August 3, 2026.
Khullar, Dhruv. "How to Die in Good Health." The New Yorker, April 15, 2024.
Mann, Brian. "McKinsey & Company to Pay $650 Million for Role in Opioid Crisis." NPR, December 13, 2024.
Martin, Kristen. "The Problem With Peter Attia: The Longevity Guru Turned Up in the Epstein Files. Should We Have Taken His Health Advice So Seriously in the First Place?" Slate, February 26, 2026.
Ruetenik, Daniel, and Arden, Farhi. "Dr. Peter Attia, Longevity Expert, Apologizes for 'Indefensible' Emails to Jeffrey Epstein." CBS News, February 2, 2026.
Tyrangiel, Josh. "The Epstein Spectrum." The Atlantic, April 3, 2026.
Walker, Graham. "A Skeptic's Review of Peter Attia's Outlive." LinkedIn, January 13, 2024. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/skeptics-review-peter-attias-outlive-graham-walker-md-z6rsc
Blum, Dani "Peter Attia's Ties to Epstein Spark Backlash From Doctors." The New York Times, February 10, 2026
Kaufman, Maya and Gardner, Laura . "I Think She Will Be Loyal: Jeffrey Epstein's Role in Peter Attia's Rise." Politico, March 16, 2026.
Pollack, Neal. "The Plight of Peter Attia." The Spectator, July 15, 2025.
Greene, Jenna. Epstein files up in lawsuit, over stock options by longevity expert, Peter Attia. March 20, 2026
Podcasts:
The Peter Attia Drive. Episode 168, August 2021.
The Peter Attia Drive. Episode 172, August 2021.
The Peter Attia Drive. Episode 190, January 10, 2022.
The Peter Attia Drive. Episode 298, April 15, 2024.
The Joe Rogan Experience. Episode 1735, 1961
Jocko Podcast. Episodes 55, 56, and 392.
The Tim Ferriss Show. Episode 398, "Peter Attia, MD: Fasting, Metformin, Athletic Performance, and More," November 27, 2019.
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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file:
The Decline and Fall of the International Workers Movement
How To Print Your Own Money: The Case for Local Currencies
How the ‘Delivery Protection Act’ Takes on Amazon
Attacking Palestinian Health
Executive Disorder: French Student Protests, Flavio Bolsonaro, ‘Third Country’ Deportations
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https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/maurice-brinton-the-bolsheviks-and-workers-control
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How the ‘Delivery Protection Act’ Takes on Amazon
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Attacking Palestinian Health
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Executive Disorder: French Student Protests, Flavio Bolsonaro, ‘Third Country’ Deportations
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Robert concludes the thrilling story of how Heinrich Schlieman destroyed a crucial piece of our shared human heritage after purchasing a child bride.
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This week Robert delves into the background of the most destructive archaeologist in history: Heinrich Schlieman, who destroyed the city of Troy looking for the city of Troy.
Sources:
https://talkafricana.com/giuseppe-ferlini-the-treasure-hunter-who-demolished-and-robbed-the-pyramids-of-meroe/
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Digging for Troy : from Homer to Hisarlik : Rubalcaba, Jill : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
https://archive.org/details/memoirsofheinric0000deue

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