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Reproductive health care touches multiple decades and events in a patient’s lifetime. So why not get care from a provider who was there when you got your first period, sprained your ankle in college sports, or was there when you gave birth? Bev and Jonas talk with the amazing Dr. Robin Wallace about providing abortions as a family physician and why more medical specialties should do the same. Based on years practicing in multiple states before and after Dobbs, she helps untangle the complex web of policies and paperwork that make it harder for medical professionals to offer abortion to patients already coming to them for other care.
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As Dr. Ghazaleh Moayedi declares, no one should have pain with IUD insertion. In this wild and wildly instructive episode, Bev and Jonas break down the actual steps of the infamously painful procedure and then dive into solutions with Dr. Moayedi, an OB-Gyn whose reputation as a provider of the “Best IUD insertion in Texas” leads to a mini gameshow challenge to rate pain relief options. This conversation is a huge win for anyone who has or wants an intrauterine device for control of their reproductive health, especially patients who have ever felt gaslit by providers about their lived experience.
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It’s no wonder that the podcast The Retrievals was launched by true crime favorites Serial Productions and the NYT. As host Susan Burton tells Bev and Jonas on Outlawed, the first season of the hit show underscored how women’s pain in IVF treatments intersected with a criminal investigation. The original perpetrator was stopped, but what was uncovered about how pain is perceived and treated or ignored affects every aspect of reproductive healthcare. In this two episode series on pain with IUD insertion, Bev and Jonas make full use of Susan Burton’s investigative journalist’s practiced lens to examine the complex dynamics between doctor and patient, pain and the perception of pain, and how doctors and patients can use language and take actions together for patient comfort. 
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Season 3 is coming your way with new episodes every week starting September 10th! We start the season talking about pain: interviewing Susan Burton (host and producer of The Retrievals) and Dr. Ghazeleh Moayedi, founder of Pegasus Health Justice center. Together we dive into the topic of pain and how we can better address it. We’ll have a series about the challenges of training Ob-Gyn’s in the wake of the Dobbs decision. We talk with trans rights super-hero - Chase Strangio of the ACLU- about the overlap between the attacks on trans health and abortion rights. And we’ll continue to interview folks telling us the stories and explaining the science of abortion bans in the US.

Enjoy today's guest episode from Bodies, produced and hosted by Allison Behringer.
The overturning of Roe v. Wade has severely restricted how doctors can access training in abortion care and it's already having a devastating ripple effect on patients seeking all kinds of reproductive care. Two medical residents in abortion-restricted states fight for training and for the future health of their patients. Plus, the centuries-long battle over who gets access to abortion training in the first place. Transcript at kcrw.com/bodies.
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