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  • The Midpacker Podcast

    #118 Troy Meadows & Julio Palma | Hellbender 100, Battling the DNF Demons, & Through Endurance We Conquer

    05/29/2026 | 2h
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    Looking for 1:1 Ultra Running Coaching? 
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    Check out the Gear I love HERE on rendezvu.co

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    “Through endurance we conquer.”

    In this special MidPacker Pod episode, returning guest Julio Palma flips the script and puts Troy Meadows in the hot seat to unpack Troy’s recent finish at the Hellbender 100. What unfolds is an honest and vulnerable conversation about setbacks, growth, mental toughness, and what it really means to keep showing up when things get hard.

    Troy opens up about his running journey—from growing up around endurance sports, to rediscovering running after losing both his mother and his dog in the same week, to eventually falling in love with trail and ultra running after reading Born to Run. The conversation also dives deep into Troy’s first 100-mile DNF at Dark Divide and how that experience forced him to reevaluate his mindset, priorities, and relationship with chasing qualifiers for races like Western States and Hardrock.

    The heart of the episode centers around Hellbender 100, one of the toughest races on the East Coast. Troy shares how this training block was the strongest of his life, the nutrition struggles and sleep deprivation he battled during the race, and how support from family, friends, and the trail community helped carry him through the darkest moments of the night.

    Some key themes from the episode include:
    Using running as a tool for resilience and mental health

    Learning from failure and difficult race experiences

    The balance between chasing qualifiers and enjoying the sport

    Training consistency, durability, and strength work

    Managing low moments during ultras and continuing forward

    The importance of community in trail running

    This one is raw, relatable, and full of those classic MidPacker moments where everyday runners chase extraordinary goals.

    Relevant Links
    Hellbender 100

    Run828 Foundation

    Laurel Highlands Ultra

    Hellbender Participant Guide

    Hellbender Course Info

    Laurel Highlands Hiking Trail

    Partner Links: 

    PlayOn Relief - https://playonrelief.com
    All Natural, Fast Acting, Long Lasting, Targeted Relief
    Use MIDPACKER for 20% off your first order

    Training Peaks
    A training app as versatile as you.
    Start your free trial at  https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 20% off an Annual Premium Subscription

    Vacation Races - https://www.vacationraces.com
    Epic Races on public lands near the most iconic National Park in the US.
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 15% the registration of any Ultra, Half, or Trailfest

    Wahoo Fitness - https://www.wahoofitness.com
    KICKR RUN
    It’s not running indoors. It’s running, reimagined.
    Run Your Way
    Buy the Wahoo KICKR RUN use code MIDPACK to get a free KICKR HEADWIND smart Bluetooth fan. Remember to add the HEADWIND to the cart and the code will apply to discount.

    ⁠Run Trail Life⁠ - https://runtraillife.com
    Find Official MPP Merch on RTL!!
    Use MIDPACKERPOD to double the donation from your purchase. 
    Visit RunTrailLife.com to check out our line of Hats and Organic cotton T's.

    ⁠Freetrail⁠ - https://freetrail.com
    Visit Freetrail.com to sign up today.

    Hellbender 100, Julio Palma, Troy Meadows, MidPacker Pod, ultra running, trail running, Hardrock qualifier, Western States, DNF, Dark Divide, Laurel Highlands, Run828, endurance, ultramarathon, mental toughness, resilience, Asheville trail running, strength training, ultra mindset, hundred miler, endurance sports, Appalachian trails, race recap, ultrarunning community
  • The Midpacker Podcast

    #117 Matt Van Dalsem | Community, Perspective, & More On The Fragility of Life

    05/20/2026 | 1h 28 mins.
    The MidPacker Pod is part of the Freetrail network of Podcasts.

    Join the Newsletter at: ⁠MidPack Musings SubStack⁠

    ⁠Support the MidPacker Pod on ⁠Patreon⁠.⁠

    Check Out MPP Merch

    Make sure you leave us a rating and review wherever you get your pods.

    Looking for 1:1 Ultra Running Coaching? 
    Check out Troy’s Coaching Page

    Check out the Gear I love HERE on rendezvu.co

    STOKED TO PARTNER WITH  
    PLAY ON RELIEF - 20% off your first order
    TRAINING PEAKS - 20% off a premium annual subscription
    VACATION RACES - 15% off any Ultra, Half Marathon, or Trailfest

    USE PROMO CODE MIDPACKER FOR A SWEET DISCOUNT

    ⁠WAHOO FITNESS⁠ -  Use Code MIDPACK: When you pick up a Wahoo KICKR RUN get a free KICKR HEADWIND smart Bluetooth fan. Remember to add the HEADWIND to the cart and the code will apply to discount.

    “Life is fragile…shit can change in a second.”

    In this episode of the MidPacker Pod, Troy sits down with longtime friend and community staple Matt Van Dalsem (MVD) for a conversation that feels more like catching up over beers than a formal interview. From early days as a basketball player who saw running as punishment, to becoming a dedicated trail runner immersed in the sport’s culture, Matt’s journey is anything but traditional.

    What stands out most is how Matt found his way into ultras later in life; through curiosity, community, and proximity to the iconic Bay Area trails like Tilden Park. His first true ultra, the Dick Collins 50 miler, marked the start of a deeper connection to the sport. From there, experiences like the Canyons 100K and involvement with FreeTrail and Trailing Indicators helped shape his identity as a true midpacker balancing life, family, and big goals.

    But this episode goes deeper than race results. Matt shares a powerful and emotional story about loss in his family and how it reshaped his perspective on running, and life. It’s a raw reminder that while we chase big goals, life can shift in an instant.

    Key Takeaways:
    Running doesn’t need to start early to become meaningful

    Community is often the glue that keeps us in the sport

    Taking care of yourself, on and off the trail, is essential

    Life is fragile…be present and appreciate the moment

    Relevant Links
    Western States Endurance Run: https://www.wser.org

    Canyons Endurance Runs: https://canyons.utmb.world

    Tahoe Rim Trail Endurance Runs: https://trter.com/

    Cocodona 250: https://cocodona.com

    Partner Links: 

    PlayOn Relief - https://playonrelief.com
    Proven Pain Relief for People Who Refuse to Stop!All Natural, Fast Acting, Long Lasting, Targeted Relief
    Use MIDPACKER for 20% off your first order

    Training Peaks
    A training app as versatile as you.
    Start your free trial at  https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 20% off an Annual Premium Subscription

    Vacation Races - https://www.vacationraces.com
    Epic Races on public lands near the most iconic National Park in the US.
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 15% the registration of any Ultra, Half, or Trailfest

    Wahoo Fitness - https://www.wahoofitness.com
    KICKR RUN invites the rhythm, flow, and freedom of outdoor running inside.
    It’s not running indoors. It’s running, reimagined.
    Run Your Way

    Buy the Wahoo KICKR RUN use code MIDPACK to get a free KICKR HEADWIND smart Bluetooth fan. Remember to add the HEADWIND to the cart and the code will apply to discount.

    ⁠Run Trail Life⁠ - https://runtraillife.com
    Find Official MPP Merch on RTL!!
    Use MIDPACKERPOD to double the donation from your purchase. 
    Visit RunTrailLife.com to check out our line of Hats and Organic cotton T's.

    ⁠Freetrail⁠ - https://freetrail.com
    Visit Freetrail.com to sign up today.

    Matt Van Dalsem, Midpacker Pod, trail running, ultrarunning, Canyons 100K, Western States, Tahoe Rim Trail, trail running community, FreeTrail, Trailing Indicators, resilience, grief, endurance sports, Bay Area trails, midpack runners
  • The Midpacker Podcast

    #116 Ryan Thrower | Curiosity, Creativity, & The Fragility of Life

    04/30/2026 | 1h 32 mins.
    The MidPacker Pod is part of the Freetrail network of Podcasts.

    Join the Newsletter at: ⁠MidPack Musings SubStack⁠

    ⁠Support the MidPacker Pod on ⁠Patreon⁠.⁠

    Check Out MPP Merch Make sure you leave us a rating and review wherever you get your pods.

    Looking for 1:1 Ultra Running Coaching? 
    Check out Troy’s Coaching Page

    STOKED TO PARTNER WITH  

    PLAY ON RELIEF - 20% off your first order
    TRAINING PEAKS - 20% off a premium annual subscription
    VACATION RACES - 15% off any Ultra, Half Marathon, or Trailfest

    USE PROMO CODE MIDPACKER FOR A SWEET DISCOUNT

    “The $hittiest mile in a hundred miler would still probably be better than the mile I could run at 85.”

    This week on the MidPacker Pod, Troy Meadows sits down with Ryan Thrower for one of the most honest and wide-ranging conversations the show has had in a while. Ryan opens up about his journey from bartending in Indianapolis and living out of his car while exploring the American West… to becoming one of the key creative voices behind Freetrail and modern trail running media.

    The conversation dives deep into curiosity, creativity, and learning to say yes to opportunity before you feel ready. Ryan shares stories about discovering trail running through Born to Run and Eat and Run, volunteering at Cascade Crest 100 Mile Endurance Run, and eventually building a life around storytelling, mountains, music, and community.

    The two also unpack Ryan’s unique approach to ultrarunning—especially his love for “step-for-step” adventures with friends at races like the Swiss Alps 100 and upcoming adventures filming Courtney Dauwalter at Cocodona 250 and running the Mammoth.

    But the heart of this episode centers around a bigger topic: the fragility of life. Ryan reflects on gratitude, staying present, creative burnout, and why even the hardest miles are gifts when viewed through the right lens.

    Topics Discussed
    Building a creative career in trail running media

    Music, photography, and storytelling

    Freetrail, TrailCon, and race-week chaos

    Step-for-step ultrarunning adventures

    The power of curiosity and learning in public

    Gratitude and the fragility of life

    Mammoth training and redefining “moseying”

    Ryan’s Links
    IG: @ryanthrower
    @freetrail

    Relevant Links
    Freetrail

    Cocodona 250

    Western States Endurance Run

    The Freetrail Podcast with Dylan Bowman

    Freetrail YouTube Channel

    Partner Links: 

    PlayOn Relief - https://playonrelief.com
    Proven Pain Relief for People Who Refuse to Stop!All Natural, Fast Acting, Long Lasting, Targeted Relief
    Use MIDPACKER for 20% off your first order

    Training Peaks
    A training app as versatile as you. Start your free trial at  https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 20% off an Annual Premium Subscription

    Vacation Races - https://www.vacationraces.com
    Epic Races on public lands near the most iconic National Park in the US.
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 15% the registration of any Ultra, Half, or Trailfest

    Wahoo Fitness - https://www.wahoofitness.com
    KICKR RUN invites the rhythm, flow, and freedom of outdoor running inside.
    It’s not running indoors. It’s running, reimagined.
    Run Your Way
    Buy the Wahoo KICKR RUN use code MIDPACK to get a free KICKR HEADWIND smart Bluetooth fan. Remember to add the HEADWIND to the cart and the code will apply to discount.

    ⁠Run Trail Life⁠ - https://runtraillife.com
    Find Official MPP Merch on RTL!!
    Use MIDPACKERPOD to double the donation from your purchase. 
    Visit RunTrailLife.com to check out our line of Hats and Organic cotton T's.

    ⁠Freetrail⁠ - https://freetrail.com
    Visit Freetrail.com to sign up today.

    Ryan Thrower, Freetrail, trail running, ultrarunning, Cocodona 250, Western States, Mammoth, storytelling, photography, music, creativity, gratitude, fragility of life, ultramarathon, trail culture, Dylan Bowman, community, endurance sports, trail media, curiosity
  • The Midpacker Podcast

    MidPacker Pod Field Notes – EP 03 | 3 Weeks to Hellbender: Training Around a Wedding, Leasons Form the Training Camp, & Troy's Heat Acclamation Protocol

    04/23/2026 | 48 mins.
    The MidPacker Pod is part of the Freetrail network of Podcasts.

    Join the Newsletter at: ⁠MidPack Musings SubStack⁠

    ⁠Support the MidPacker Pod on ⁠Patreon⁠.⁠

    Check Out MPP Merch

    Make sure you leave us a rating and review wherever you get your pods
    .
    Looking for 1:1 Ultra Running Coaching? 
    Check out Troy’s Coaching Page

    STOKED TO PARTNER WITH  

    PLAY ON RELIEF - 20% off your first order
    TRAINING PEAKS - 20% off a premium annual subscription
    VACATION RACES - 15% off any Ultra, Half Marathon, or Trailfest

    USE PROMO CODE MIDPACKER FOR A SWEET DISCOUNT

    “Training doesn’t have to be perfect to be effective.”

    In episode 03 of Field Notes, Troy is three weeks out from the Hellbender 100 Mile Endurance Run and things are getting real. From navigating travel during peak training to dialing in the final details, this one is packed with honest reflections, lessons learned, and that pre-race energy we all know so well.

    Episode Highlights
    Training on the Road (Baltimore Trip):

    Adjusted long run midweek to make space for a family wedding

    Logged fast, flat miles around the Inner Harbor, a rare shift from mountain training

    Key lesson: consistency beats perfection when life shows up

    Training Camp Wins:

    ~80 miles, ~18 hours, ~17K+ feet of vert

    First time using a pole quiver, a game changer for efficiency on rolling terrain

    Dialed nutrition with Hyperlite, real food like crepes and cookies, and added protein strategy

    Tested gear like the Tantrum Crest 6 vest under full race load

    Recovery & Durability:

    Stayed consistent with strength training, even after big efforts

    Integrated PlayOn Relief for post-run recovery and inflammation management

    Emphasis on long-term consistency paying off

    Heat Acclimation Strategy:

    Hot water immersion protocol with a 10-day build

    Focus on increasing plasma volume, sweat rate, and heat tolerance

    “It sucks… but it works.”

    Race Planning Mode:

    Using Time on Trails to map pacing, aid stations, and nutrition

    Crew and drop bag strategy coming together

    Realistic goal is around a 26 to 27 hour finish

    Athlete Shout-Out
    Samantha crushes her first 100K at the New River 100K, a huge milestone and proof that trusting the process pays off

    Motivational Takeaways
    Adapt your training, do not abandon it

    Consistency over time builds real durability

    Practice everything before race day, nothing new on race day

    The work is done, now it is time to execute

    Troy’s Links
    IG: @troyontherun
    Personal Site: Troyontherun.com
    Coaching Page: Troy’s Ultra Coaching Page

    Relevant Links
    Hellbender 100 Mile Endurance Run

    Time on Trails

    New River 100K

    Partner Links: 

    PlayOn Relief - https://playonrelief.com
    Proven Pain Relief for People Who Refuse to Stop!All Natural, Fast Acting, Long Lasting, Targeted Relief
    Use MIDPACKER for 20% off your first order

    Training Peaks
    A training app as versatile as you. Start your free trial at  https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 20% off an Annual Premium Subscription

    Vacation Races - https://www.vacationraces.com
    Epic Races on public lands near the most iconic National Park in the US.
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 15% the registration of any Ultra, Half, or Trailfest

    Wahoo Fitness - https://www.wahoofitness.com
    KICKR RUN It’s not running indoors. It’s running, reimagined.
    Run Your Way
    Buy the Wahoo KICKR RUN use code MIDPACK to get a free KICKR HEADWIND smart Bluetooth fan. Remember to add the HEADWIND to the cart and the code will apply to discount.

    ⁠Run Trail Life⁠ - https://runtraillife.com
    Find Official MPP Merch on RTL!!
    Use MIDPACKERPOD to double the donation from your purchase. 

    ⁠Freetrail⁠ - https://freetrail.com
    Visit Freetrail.com to sign up today.

    Hellbender 100, ultramarathon training, trail running, training camp, heat acclimation, race strategy, endurance fueling, midpacker mindset, ultra coaching, time on trails app, recovery tools, strength training, long run strategy, crew planning
  • The Midpacker Podcast

    #115 Jordan Battaglia | Building PlayOn, Strength for Longevity, and Staying Injury Free

    04/16/2026 | 1h 28 mins.
    The MidPacker Pod is part of the Freetrail network of Podcasts.

    Join the Newsletter at: ⁠MidPack Musings SubStack⁠

    Support the MidPacker Pod on ⁠Patreon⁠.⁠

    Check Out MPP Merch

    Make sure you leave us a rating and review wherever you get your pods.

    Looking for 1:1 Ultra Running Coaching? 
    Check out Troy’s Coaching Page

    STOKED TO PARTNER WITH  

    PLAY ON RELIEF - 20% off your first order
    TRAINING PEAKS - 20% off a premium annual subscription
    VACATION RACES - 15% off any Ultra, Half Marathon, or Trailfest

    USE PROMO CODE MIDPACKER FOR A SWEET DISCOUNT

    ⁠WAHOO FITNESS⁠ -  Use Code MIDPACK
    When you pick up a Wahoo KICKR RUN get a free KICKR HEADWIND smart Bluetooth fan. Remember to add the HEADWIND to the cart and the code will apply to discount.

    “What do I want to be today and what do I want to be when I’m 90?”

    In this episode, Troy Meadows sits down with Jordan Battaglia, a former college football player turned entrepreneur, coach, and co-founder of PlayOn Relief.
    What starts as a conversation about pain relief quickly turns into a deeper dive into performance, durability, and what it really means to train for the long game.

    Guest Spotlight: 
    Born and raised in San Diego, Jordan grew up immersed in sports and eventually played college football at Pomona College.

    Initially on the path to law school, his journey shifted after a family business setback and a pivotal back injury during his final football season.

    That injury led to the creation of PlayOn Relief, a natural, long-lasting pain relief solution built from his family’s original pharmaceutical technology.

    Now a coach with nearly a decade of experience, Jordan focuses on helping athletes build strength, improve mobility, and stay active for life.

    Key Takeaways:
    Solve your own problems first. Great ideas often come from real need

    Longevity matters more than short-term gains. Train for who you want to be at 90

    Consistency beats intensity when it comes to strength and mobility

    Small habits, even 5 to 10 minutes a day, can lead to big performance gains

    Key Topics Covered
    The origin story of PlayOn Relief and its delivery system

    Why most pain relief products fall short

    Strength training for ultra runners and why it matters

    Mobility as a missing link in endurance performance

    Simple exercises to improve joint health and durability

    Jordan’s Links:
    IG: @jordanbattag

    PlayOn Relief - https://playonrelief.com
    IG: @playonrelief

    Relevant Links
    https://playonrelief.com/pages/aboutus

    https://playonrelief.com/pages/the-science

    Partner Links: 

    PlayOn Relief - https://playonrelief.com
    Proven Pain Relief for People Who Refuse to Stop!All Natural, Fast Acting, Long Lasting, Targeted Relief
    Use MIDPACKER for 20% off your first order

    Training Peaks
    A training app as versatile as you.
    Start your free trial at  https://www.trainingpeaks.com/midpacker
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 20% off an Annual Premium Subscription

    Vacation Races - https://www.vacationraces.com
    Epic Races on public lands near the most iconic National Park in the US.
    Use MIDPACKER at checkout for 15% the registration of any Ultra, Half, or Trailfest

    Wahoo Fitness - https://www.wahoofitness.com
    KICKR RUN invites the rhythm, flow, and freedom of outdoor running inside.
    It’s not running indoors. It’s running, reimagined.
    Run Your Way
    Buy the Wahoo KICKR RUN use code MIDPACK to get a free KICKR HEADWIND smart Bluetooth fan. Remember to add the HEADWIND to the cart and the code will apply to discount.

    ⁠Run Trail Life⁠ - https://runtraillife.com
    Find Official MPP Merch on RTL!!
    Use MIDPACKERPOD to double the donation from your purchase. 
    Visit RunTrailLife.com to check out our line of Hats and Organic cotton T's.

    ⁠Freetrail⁠ - https://freetrail.com
    Visit Freetrail.com to sign up today.

    Jordan Battaglia, PlayOn Relief, strength training, mobility, joint health, ultra running, endurance training, injury prevention, recovery, arnica, trail running, performance, longevity
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Freetrail presents The Midpacker Podcast, which follows middle and back of the pack trail runners and ultra runners at the heart of the trail running community. Join host Troy Meadows weekly as he talks through what it takes to balance life and running with everyday runners doing extra ordinary things on and off the trails.
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